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Post by LuCypher on Nov 19, 2018 13:33:44 GMT -5
Found the last NES Black Box Manual I needed to complete the set. 
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Post by Cory on Dec 28, 2018 16:08:27 GMT -5
I modded my SNES classic to hold 260 games from all different systems to include NES, SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance and Genesis. So I’ve been playing a ton of old school games. I decided that now was the time to tackle the hardest NES games that are actually playable. Meaning that that they aren’t difficult because they are broken due to glitches, broken controls or etc.. Also, I had to do it legit, no save states, game genies or turbo controls. Just whatever you could manage with the original system and controller. I think the 5 hardest NES games are: (in order) 1) Battletoads 2) Ghosts N Goblins 3) Bayou Billy 4) TMNT1 5) Ninja Gaiden I beat the bottom 3 as a kid. The top 2 have always been impossible and destroyed me on many many occasions over the last 25-30 years. I started with Battletoads because I’ve always thought the game had great controls and graphics but it was just so god damn unforgiving.  Limited continues, one hit deaths, every stage throwing something completely different at you. This game is like beating your head against a brick wall, but the game continues to be fun.  I failed a lot, like probably hundreds of times trying to figure the game out this time. As I was getting raped by the later levels, I wondered if it was even worth it. What could I possibly gain from the constant masochistic gameplay? The answer is the satisfaction to beat a game I’ve been off and on trying to defeat for 27 fuggin years. I finally did it. Not only did I do it, but I got so good at it that I beat it without using a continue and I still had 8 lives left.  I was feeling good so I moved to Ghosts N Goblins. Brought me right back down to earth and kicked my dick in the dirt. I always hated this game for the most part because the controls are so unforgiving. You jump, you are committed no matter what. An enemy decides to spawn in front of you? Fugg you, git good scrub. The randomly spawning enemies that just appear in front of you out of nowhere are damn near game breaking too. Lastly, the normal enimies just take too many hits to kill. 4 hits for the extremely fast moving red devils and 10 hits for a troll. Most bosses don’t take that many hits. It’s really the bosses being reasonable that makes the game possible, that and the fact that you get unlimited continues. Anyway, I beat the game once and it starts you over to do the whole thing again with slightly faster enemies and now they can shoot more projectiles at you. It was somehow easier the second time through because I spent so much time practicing the timing and strategies the first time through. Again, during the entire process I died hundreds of times and after each death you have to watch the map cutscene. Another masochist exercise, but I did it.  Feels good to finally have beaten what I consider to be the 5 hardest NES games. I feel like I can close a chapter of my life now.  Any of you set out to beat old games that owned you as a kid? Do you consider any NES games to be harder than my 5?
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Post by seymourbarf on Jan 2, 2019 12:08:54 GMT -5
I modded my SNES classic to hold 260 games from all different systems to include NES, SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance and Genesis. So I’ve been playing a ton of old school games. I decided that now was the time to tackle the hardest NES games that are actually playable. Meaning that that they aren’t difficult because they are broken due to glitches, broken controls or etc.. Also, I had to do it legit, no save states, game genies or turbo controls. Just whatever you could manage with the original system and controller. I think the 5 hardest NES games are: (in order) 1) Battletoads 2) Ghosts N Goblins 3) Bayou Billy 4) TMNT1 5) Ninja Gaiden I beat the bottom 3 as a kid. The top 2 have always been impossible and destroyed me on many many occasions over the last 25-30 years. I started with Battletoads because I’ve always thought the game had great controls and graphics but it was just so god damn unforgiving.  Limited continues, one hit deaths, every stage throwing something completely different at you. This game is like beating your head against a brick wall, but the game continues to be fun.  I failed a lot, like probably hundreds of times trying to figure the game out this time. As I was getting raped by the later levels, I wondered if it was even worth it. What could I possibly gain from the constant masochistic gameplay? The answer is the satisfaction to beat a game I’ve been off and on trying to defeat for 27 fuggin years. I finally did it. Not only did I do it, but I got so good at it that I beat it without using a continue and I still had 8 lives left.  I was feeling good so I moved to Ghosts N Goblins. Brought me right back down to earth and kicked my dick in the dirt. I always hated this game for the most part because the controls are so unforgiving. You jump, you are committed no matter what. An enemy decides to spawn in front of you? Fugg you, git good scrub. The randomly spawning enemies that just appear in front of you out of nowhere are damn near game breaking too. Lastly, the normal enimies just take too many hits to kill. 4 hits for the extremely fast moving red devils and 10 hits for a troll. Most bosses don’t take that many hits. It’s really the bosses being reasonable that makes the game possible, that and the fact that you get unlimited continues. Anyway, I beat the game once and it starts you over to do the whole thing again with slightly faster enemies and now they can shoot more projectiles at you. It was somehow easier the second time through because I spent so much time practicing the timing and strategies the first time through. Again, during the entire process I died hundreds of times and after each death you have to watch the map cutscene. Another masochist exercise, but I did it.  Feels good to finally have beaten what I consider to be the 5 hardest NES games. I feel like I can close a chapter of my life now.  Any of you set out to beat old games that owned you as a kid? Do you consider any NES games to be harder than my 5? Battletoads was SO freaking hard. It was ridiculous. I believe I rented that game from the video store, played it for a weekend, and decided it was too hard for me to enjoy. I liked a challenge as a kid, but s**t. You might as well be playing Trap Adventure 2. Ghosts and Goblins, also hard as hell. I lost a lot of money in the arcade on that game. And you had me laughing with your description of playing it, with enemies spawning in front of you mid-jump. It's so true! I owned TMNT1 and Ninja Gaiden. They were hard, but nothing compared to the first two on your list. Another game I loved playing but never finished was Goonies 2. I remember playing that game for what seemed like three hours to my 13-year-old brain (it was probably only like 45 minutes in actuality I bet), and I remember some kind of underwater level deep into gameplay. But I never beat it. I still have that game - I should fire it up and see if I can finally finish it!
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Post by Cory on Jan 2, 2019 16:26:42 GMT -5
I modded my SNES classic to hold 260 games from all different systems to include NES, SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance and Genesis. So I’ve been playing a ton of old school games. I decided that now was the time to tackle the hardest NES games that are actually playable. Meaning that that they aren’t difficult because they are broken due to glitches, broken controls or etc.. Also, I had to do it legit, no save states, game genies or turbo controls. Just whatever you could manage with the original system and controller. I think the 5 hardest NES games are: (in order) 1) Battletoads 2) Ghosts N Goblins 3) Bayou Billy 4) TMNT1 5) Ninja Gaiden I beat the bottom 3 as a kid. The top 2 have always been impossible and destroyed me on many many occasions over the last 25-30 years. I started with Battletoads because I’ve always thought the game had great controls and graphics but it was just so god damn unforgiving.  Limited continues, one hit deaths, every stage throwing something completely different at you. This game is like beating your head against a brick wall, but the game continues to be fun.  I failed a lot, like probably hundreds of times trying to figure the game out this time. As I was getting raped by the later levels, I wondered if it was even worth it. What could I possibly gain from the constant masochistic gameplay? The answer is the satisfaction to beat a game I’ve been off and on trying to defeat for 27 fuggin years. I finally did it. Not only did I do it, but I got so good at it that I beat it without using a continue and I still had 8 lives left.  I was feeling good so I moved to Ghosts N Goblins. Brought me right back down to earth and kicked my dick in the dirt. I always hated this game for the most part because the controls are so unforgiving. You jump, you are committed no matter what. An enemy decides to spawn in front of you? Fugg you, git good scrub. The randomly spawning enemies that just appear in front of you out of nowhere are damn near game breaking too. Lastly, the normal enimies just take too many hits to kill. 4 hits for the extremely fast moving red devils and 10 hits for a troll. Most bosses don’t take that many hits. It’s really the bosses being reasonable that makes the game possible, that and the fact that you get unlimited continues. Anyway, I beat the game once and it starts you over to do the whole thing again with slightly faster enemies and now they can shoot more projectiles at you. It was somehow easier the second time through because I spent so much time practicing the timing and strategies the first time through. Again, during the entire process I died hundreds of times and after each death you have to watch the map cutscene. Another masochist exercise, but I did it.  Feels good to finally have beaten what I consider to be the 5 hardest NES games. I feel like I can close a chapter of my life now.  Any of you set out to beat old games that owned you as a kid? Do you consider any NES games to be harder than my 5? Battletoads was SO freaking hard. It was ridiculous. I believe I rented that game from the video store, played it for a weekend, and decided it was too hard for me to enjoy. I liked a challenge as a kid, but s**t. You might as well be playing Trap Adventure 2. Ghosts and Goblins, also hard as hell. I lost a lot of money in the arcade on that game. And you had me laughing with your description of playing it, with enemies spawning in front of you mid-jump. It's so true! I owned TMNT1 and Ninja Gaiden. They were hard, but nothing compared to the first two on your list. Another game I loved playing but never finished was Goonies 2. I remember playing that game for what seemed like three hours to my 13-year-old brain (it was probably only like 45 minutes in actuality I bet), and I remember some kind of underwater level deep into gameplay. But I never beat it. I still have that game - I should fire it up and see if I can finally finish it! Goonies 2 was great. It was really obtuse at times but if you stuck it out, it was fun to progress. I heard the Japanese version of Battletoads on the Famicom (Japan NES) was easier, so I downloaded it to give it a shot. It is incredibly easy if you can beat the NES version. They start you with 5 lives, they take out the major turbo tunnel annoyances, they take out a ton of stuff that would just destroy you (like spikes and high boss health) and they add more 1-ups. I wish this was the game we'd have gotten in the US. Maybe a normal and hard setting with two different versions. I just played Ninja Gaiden again and that game really doesn't get hard until around level 5. Level 6 is the reason it's considered a brutally hard game though. Struggle through 3 levels of stage 6, get to the boss, die and have to restart at 6-1 after one death. Plus there are three final bosses that all reset you back. That might be the biggest kick to the balls on the NES. Those between chapter cut scenes are glorious though. 
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Post by Mark Pingitore on Jan 2, 2019 21:05:37 GMT -5
Battletoads was SO freaking hard. It was ridiculous. I believe I rented that game from the video store, played it for a weekend, and decided it was too hard for me to enjoy. I liked a challenge as a kid, but s**t. You might as well be playing Trap Adventure 2. Ghosts and Goblins, also hard as hell. I lost a lot of money in the arcade on that game. And you had me laughing with your description of playing it, with enemies spawning in front of you mid-jump. It's so true! I owned TMNT1 and Ninja Gaiden. They were hard, but nothing compared to the first two on your list. Another game I loved playing but never finished was Goonies 2. I remember playing that game for what seemed like three hours to my 13-year-old brain (it was probably only like 45 minutes in actuality I bet), and I remember some kind of underwater level deep into gameplay. But I never beat it. I still have that game - I should fire it up and see if I can finally finish it! Goonies 2 was great. It was really obtuse at times but if you stuck it out, it was fun to progress. I heard the Japanese version of Battletoads on the Famicom (Japan NES) was easier, so I downloaded it to give it a shot. It is incredibly easy if you can beat the NES version. They start you with 5 lives, they take out the major turbo tunnel annoyances, they take out a ton of stuff that would just destroy you (like spikes and high boss health) and they add more 1-ups. I wish this was the game we'd have gotten in the US. Maybe a normal and hard setting with two different versions. I just played Ninja Gaiden again and that game really doesn't get hard until around level 5. Level 6 is the reason it's considered a brutally hard game though. Struggle through 3 levels of stage 6, get to the boss, die and have to restart at 6-1 after one death. Plus there are three final bosses that all reset you back. That might be the biggest kick to the balls on the NES. Those between chapter cut scenes are glorious though.  Must play The Messenger!
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Post by seymourbarf on Jan 2, 2019 21:37:50 GMT -5
Goonies 2 was great. It was really obtuse at times but if you stuck it out, it was fun to progress. I heard the Japanese version of Battletoads on the Famicom (Japan NES) was easier, so I downloaded it to give it a shot. It is incredibly easy if you can beat the NES version. They start you with 5 lives, they take out the major turbo tunnel annoyances, they take out a ton of stuff that would just destroy you (like spikes and high boss health) and they add more 1-ups. I wish this was the game we'd have gotten in the US. Maybe a normal and hard setting with two different versions. I just played Ninja Gaiden again and that game really doesn't get hard until around level 5. Level 6 is the reason it's considered a brutally hard game though. Struggle through 3 levels of stage 6, get to the boss, die and have to restart at 6-1 after one death. Plus there are three final bosses that all reset you back. That might be the biggest kick to the balls on the NES. Those between chapter cut scenes are glorious though.  Must play The Messenger! Wow! This looks like Ninja Gaiden meets Contra meets Castlevania. And it looks like a hell of a lot of fun!
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Post by Cory on Jan 2, 2019 23:05:56 GMT -5
Goonies 2 was great. It was really obtuse at times but if you stuck it out, it was fun to progress. I heard the Japanese version of Battletoads on the Famicom (Japan NES) was easier, so I downloaded it to give it a shot. It is incredibly easy if you can beat the NES version. They start you with 5 lives, they take out the major turbo tunnel annoyances, they take out a ton of stuff that would just destroy you (like spikes and high boss health) and they add more 1-ups. I wish this was the game we'd have gotten in the US. Maybe a normal and hard setting with two different versions. I just played Ninja Gaiden again and that game really doesn't get hard until around level 5. Level 6 is the reason it's considered a brutally hard game though. Struggle through 3 levels of stage 6, get to the boss, die and have to restart at 6-1 after one death. Plus there are three final bosses that all reset you back. That might be the biggest kick to the balls on the NES. Those between chapter cut scenes are glorious though.  Must play The Messenger! This one is on my list and other games like it. It’s really hard to keep up with everything.
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Post by Cory on Jan 6, 2019 14:31:35 GMT -5
Changing my top 5 hardest NES Games.
1 - Battletoads 2 - Ghosts N Goblins 3 - Bayou Billy 4 - Ninja Gaiden 3 5 - TMNT 1
I just beat TMNT 1 and all 3 Ninja Gaidens and NG3 is the hardest of them all. The enemies hit twice as hard and you have limited continues. TMNT is still BS hard, but at least it lets up from time to time.
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Post by LuCypher on Feb 2, 2019 9:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Cory on May 18, 2020 21:26:40 GMT -5
I couldn't stop watching this. Unreal the skill these guys have.
My highest score is 140Kish starting at level 0. These guys start at level 18, haha.
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