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Post by Cory on Apr 5, 2015 19:02:22 GMT -5
Hello Everyone, First of all, props to Steve for sending me this information. I want to put this warning out there for the GPK community that frequents this site (many other GPK sites are also doing this). I haven't had a chance to fully get all of the details this but Steve has done some due diligence. Also, other GPK communities are reporting this and have researched it extensively. I'll be reaching out to get the full story myself so I have a clear understanding of what has gone down, but for now I feel obligated to issue this warning to you so you don't plunk down your hard earned money on BS products. I'll post and update to this thread as more information comes in. It has come to my attention that The Hundreds promo set is a bootleg set. This set has been represented by people as authentic and rare. It is actually a set produced by a third party and not produced by The Hundreds Service Company. Here is response from the Company's Customer Service person saying that the Hundreds promo cards were never produced as small sticker cards.  Here is a link from another forum talking about how many sets were actually produced nonsportupdate.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/954605353/m/2577004176It has also come to my attention that UG Member TRAVIS is a key person behind this bootleg set. Obviously, this is unacceptable behavior and will blacklist him forever on the UG if this is true. Producing fake cards isn't really that big of a deal, but representing bootlegs as authentic is a MAJOR FUGGIN DEAL. Apparently, many people were unaware that these sets were bootlegs and were charged upwards of $65 per set. This post is from the UK Collectors Hub facebook page talking about what has been uncovered (true source unknown). We have some unfortunate news for the members of this community. Anyone who has purchased "The Hundreds set" from Travis Tierno has been lied to and scammed. We have contacted The Hundreds Company and a number of other sources and found out that they never released this set. A small card set was never produced, Only the jumbo cards and keychains were officially licensed.
This set is 100% bootleg and Travis Tierno is behind this. Every sale from original owners of the small 100s card set and promo card can be traced back to Travis. Original sets sold in 2013 for 20-30$ while recently sets have sold upwards to 55$ and 65$ respectively.
We are sorry to be the ones to tell everyone this but we figured it was the right thing to do to warn others about this fake set. The Hundreds Promo set was supposed to be a limited edition of 50 sets, Travis supposedly had 25 of the 50 for sale. We stopped counting when we hit 36. Layron, who painted the actual artwork has no knowledge of a set of small cards being made. They were never produced by Topps as they have no copyright. There is extensive amounts of evidence here and he has been demodded in most groups and is currently banned from GPKUG (Garbage Pail Kids Underground forum) and various other forums and gpk groups online.We have temporarily banned TRAVIS from this site while we wait for further information. I'm hoping this is some kind of weird misunderstanding. Again, I will post updates as we figure out the situation. As for now, I'd highly recommend that you view the sets as bootlegs and act accordingly. Feel free to post your opinions below and/or tell your stories on how you were taken (or not taken).
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Post by JasonDecay on Apr 5, 2015 19:13:33 GMT -5
Thanks for posting Cory, I hope the truth is discovered soon. Things don't look good, but perhaps there will at least be some sort of light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by ericnilla on Apr 5, 2015 20:11:42 GMT -5
Whoa, that is crazy and pretty hard to believe Travis would do something to rip others off. He's always been a stand up guy with me.
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Post by rosenhoot on Apr 6, 2015 7:51:58 GMT -5
If any of you are "really upset" and feel like you need to quickly distance yourself from this "bootleg set", I'll take your shame away for 20$  I just don't feel there is enough $$ involved in this to be a scam. If there is any real $$ to be made on a sticker scam, why wouldn't have Travis just sold all those P4 promo cards he got instead of GIVING them away. Or hell make bns c or art variant bootlegs and just sell one or two for equal $$. I could be totally wrong, but I feel this is a misunderstanding that hurt someone's pride and became a bigger deal than it really was/is.
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Post by Cory on Apr 6, 2015 8:56:13 GMT -5
If any of you are "really upset" and feel like you need to quickly distance yourself from this "bootleg set", I'll take your shame away for 20$  I just don't feel there is enough $$ involved in this to be a scam. If there is any real $$ to be made on a sticker scam, why wouldn't have Travis just sold all those P4 promo cards he got instead of GIVING them away. Or hell make bns c or art variant bootlegs and just sell one or two for equal $$. I could be totally wrong, but I feel this is a misunderstanding that hurt someone's pride and became a bigger deal than it really was/is. Deceivng a collector for any amount of money is a scam in my eyes. The fact that the cards are bootlegs isn't the issue here. The issue is how they were presented to buyers. It certainly wasn't common knowledge that these cards were bootlegs. I want anyone with information about this good or bad to send it to me. If this is a huge misunderstanding, we need to tell that story. For example...if Travis told you they were unoffical bootlegs when he sold them to you, send me that info (with screen shot proof please). On the other hand, if he willing deceived you, I'd like to know that as well. I'm just looking for the facts from both sides here.
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Post by dwillis123 on Apr 6, 2015 10:09:05 GMT -5
If any of you are "really upset" and feel like you need to quickly distance yourself from this "bootleg set", I'll take your shame away for 20$  I just don't feel there is enough $$ involved in this to be a scam. If there is any real $$ to be made on a sticker scam, why wouldn't have Travis just sold all those P4 promo cards he got instead of GIVING them away. Or hell make bns c or art variant bootlegs and just sell one or two for equal $$. I could be totally wrong, but I feel this is a misunderstanding that hurt someone's pride and became a bigger deal than it really was/is. Deceivng a collector for any amount of money is a scam in my eyes. The fact that the cards are bootlegs isn't the issue here. The issue is how they were presented to buyers. It certainly wasn't common knowledge that these cards were bootlegs. I want anyone with information about this good or bad to send it to me. If this is a huge misunderstanding, we need to tell that story. For example...if Travis told you they were unoffical bootlegs when he sold them to you, send me that info (with screen shot proof please). On the other hand, if he willing deceived you, I'd like to know that as well. I'm just looking for the facts from both sides here. I agree 100% Cory. Scamming a collector out of any amount of money is unacceptable. It's not just a small amount of money either, a lot of people are coming out saying they bought sets for $65-$75. He's sold over 50 sets so I guarantee he's cleared at least 2-3k off of this scam. Not to mention the people who we don't know who purchased sets as well. Anyone who has any doubt that this is true must be in denial. I run a GPK Facebook group (Garbage Pail Kids Foreign Market) and I was one of the groups this info was originally shared in. Travis is unfriending people who are contacting about this whole situation and not responding to any messages. The messages show that he read them but he is yet to respond. His actions alone prove his guilt IMO.
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Post by ⓗⓥⓖ82 on Apr 6, 2015 13:24:53 GMT -5
If any of you are "really upset" and feel like you need to quickly distance yourself from this "bootleg set", I'll take your shame away for 20$  I just don't feel there is enough $$ involved in this to be a scam. If there is any real $$ to be made on a sticker scam, why wouldn't have Travis just sold all those P4 promo cards he got instead of GIVING them away. Or hell make bns c or art variant bootlegs and just sell one or two for equal $$. I could be totally wrong, but I feel this is a misunderstanding that hurt someone's pride and became a bigger deal than it really was/is. Well I heard he sold the set for 85 usd to a Dutch collector. In my opinion that is just wrong. 85 dollar for a bootleg set is just way too much. In that case there is a lot of money involved
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Post by robslob on Apr 6, 2015 14:03:54 GMT -5
pfffff
there would be no issues with anyone if he had just told people that they were bootleg. simple. He probably would have sold them for a similar price..now, they are close to worthless. the other problem is that he was respected and that he entwined good relationships and then sold those "friends" a fake product...
this should not happen.. and then again it always will cause humans are selfish
In my opinion, mixing a collecting hobby with profit making is a terrible thing to do.
just my 2 cents
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Post by ukdave on Apr 6, 2015 15:34:18 GMT -5
He sold me a set for $70, no mention of bootleg, just said that it was a rare set......very rare if it wasn't actually made!!!
But saying that, Travis has been good to me previously so I'm a bit confused
If however he has done this 36 sets x $60+ per set = a half decent amount of money.
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Post by rusVan on Apr 6, 2015 15:51:51 GMT -5
He sold me a set for $70, no mention of bootleg, just said that it was a rare set......very rare if it wasn't actually made!!! But saying that, Travis has been good to me previously so I'm a bit confused If however he has done this 36 sets x $60+ per set = a half decent amount of money. 70.00?  When did you buy the set, exactly?
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Post by ukdave on Apr 6, 2015 16:37:43 GMT -5
Bought them at the end of January this year
$70 including shipping to UK
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Post by Steve on Apr 6, 2015 20:00:46 GMT -5
If any of you are "really upset" and feel like you need to quickly distance yourself from this "bootleg set", I'll take your shame away for 20$  I just don't feel there is enough $$ involved in this to be a scam. If there is any real $$ to be made on a sticker scam, why wouldn't have Travis just sold all those P4 promo cards he got instead of GIVING them away. Or hell make bns c or art variant bootlegs and just sell one or two for equal $$. I could be totally wrong, but I feel this is a misunderstanding that hurt someone's pride and became a bigger deal than it really was/is. I don't think people are upset about losing a little bit of money, rather, not receiving full disclosure on what they were really buying. From what I have seen, Travis didn't make this bootleg set, he was just 'the' distributor/marketeer.
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Post by rusVan on Apr 6, 2015 20:24:27 GMT -5
If any of you are "really upset" and feel like you need to quickly distance yourself from this "bootleg set", I'll take your shame away for 20$  I just don't feel there is enough $$ involved in this to be a scam. If there is any real $$ to be made on a sticker scam, why wouldn't have Travis just sold all those P4 promo cards he got instead of GIVING them away. Or hell make bns c or art variant bootlegs and just sell one or two for equal $$. I could be totally wrong, but I feel this is a misunderstanding that hurt someone's pride and became a bigger deal than it really was/is. I don't think people are upset about losing a little bit of money, rather, not receiving full disclosure on what they were really buying. From what I have seen, Travis didn't make this bootleg set, he was just 'one of' or 'the' distributor/marketeer. Whose PayPal account was all this money being sent to?
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Post by ANSestren on Apr 6, 2015 21:31:06 GMT -5
I don't think people are upset about losing a little bit of money, rather, not receiving full disclosure on what they were really buying. From what I have seen, Travis didn't make this bootleg set, he was just 'one of' or 'the' distributor/marketeer. Whose PayPal account was all this money being sent to? I quite remember doing pay pal with his account with this scum bucket lo life name on it. Honestly the guy is a class act two faced snake befriending everyone only to backstab each and every one who has dealt with him. What I don't get is how can a family man risk the safety of not only him, but his kids and wife. What type of person engages in these activities without thinking of giving his address to so many folks. For all we know there could be a few individuals who could take it in their own hands and really do damage to his family. Obviously Travis is a very selfish individual that uses people for his gain without thinking of the consequences. And if I recall I heard he has been dealing with some foreign fake sets he has been selling from other folks. I always questioned this but after this, I don't doubt he been doing fishy dealings for quite a while. My 2 cents on this situation.
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Post by rosenhoot on Apr 6, 2015 21:48:22 GMT -5
If any of you are "really upset" and feel like you need to quickly distance yourself from this "bootleg set", I'll take your shame away for 20$  I just don't feel there is enough $$ involved in this to be a scam. If there is any real $$ to be made on a sticker scam, why wouldn't have Travis just sold all those P4 promo cards he got instead of GIVING them away. Or hell make bns c or art variant bootlegs and just sell one or two for equal $$. I could be totally wrong, but I feel this is a misunderstanding that hurt someone's pride and became a bigger deal than it really was/is. I don't think people are upset about losing a little bit of money, rather, not receiving full disclosure on what they were really buying. From what I have seen, Travis didn't make this bootleg set, he was just 'the' distributor/marketeer. I understand people are (and should be) pissed because they were lied to. I just HOPE Travis didn't know. Maybe he was the first one to get lied to and he was just distributing what he thought was a real product. Travis has always been cool on the boards and to me in our trades/sales and the whole thing just doesn't make sense. I guess I just want it to be a mistake... and a set of these cards now.
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Post by ANSestren on Apr 6, 2015 22:11:03 GMT -5
I don't think people are upset about losing a little bit of money, rather, not receiving full disclosure on what they were really buying. From what I have seen, Travis didn't make this bootleg set, he was just 'the' distributor/marketeer. I understand people are (and should be) pissed because they were lied to. I just HOPE Travis didn't know. Maybe he was the first one to get lied to and he was just distributing what he thought was a real product. Travis has always been cool on the boards and to me in our trades/sales and the whole thing just doesn't make sense. I guess I just want it to be a mistake... and a set of these cards now.
He knew because he mentioned he had 25 of the supposively made 50 sets. He sold over 36. Not even counting all the facebook groups with other folks pming him for sets. Matters not if he is the one who made them or just distributed it. He knew theybwere fakes and selling them as real official product.
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Post by Fermentis on Apr 6, 2015 23:38:26 GMT -5
Russ, the paypal money went directly to Travis. myself included. and everyone else from what i know
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Post by Smetchlock Smomes on Apr 6, 2015 23:43:15 GMT -5
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Post by Smetchlock Smomes on Apr 7, 2015 0:28:19 GMT -5
I don't think people are upset about losing a little bit of money, rather, not receiving full disclosure on what they were really buying. From what I have seen, Travis didn't make this bootleg set, he was just 'the' distributor/marketeer. I understand people are (and should be) pissed because they were lied to. I just HOPE Travis didn't know. Maybe he was the first one to get lied to and he was just distributing what he thought was a real product. Travis has always been cool on the boards and to me in our trades/sales and the whole thing just doesn't make sense. I guess I just want it to be a mistake... and a set of these cards now.
Even if his initial story would have been true. He's had since Oct 2013 to change his pitch and let collectors know they were no longer going to release the set and that it was not sanctioned by the hundreds company.  Instead he has continued to assert these were "Hundreds sets" and used the guise that they were limited edition to justify his 30$ price hikes to upwards of 85$ a set. Some individuals were also charged 20$ for a promo card.  None of this matters now ofcourse since we know the Hundreds team themselves never had any knowledge of its existence.  btw dont you already have a set of these? nonsportupdate.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/954605353/m/2577004176
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Post by dwillis123 on Apr 7, 2015 0:28:57 GMT -5
I wonder why Travis changed his photo bucket setting to private all of a sudden? Like I said in my previous post, his actions are making him look very guilty.
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Post by rusVan on Apr 7, 2015 0:49:42 GMT -5
I understand people are (and should be) pissed because they were lied to. I just HOPE Travis didn't know. Maybe he was the first one to get lied to and he was just distributing what he thought was a real product. Travis has always been cool on the boards and to me in our trades/sales and the whole thing just doesn't make sense. I guess I just want it to be a mistake... and a set of these cards now.
Even if his initial story would have been true. He's had since Oct 2013 to change his pitch and let collectors know they were no longer going to release the set and that it was not sanctioned by the hundreds company.  Instead he has continued to assert these were "Hundreds sets" and used the guise that they were limited edition to justify his 30$ price hikes to upwards of 85$ a set. Some individuals were also charged 20$ for a promo card.  None of this matters now ofcourse since we know the Hundreds team themselves never had any knowledge of its existence.  btw dont you already have a set of these? nonsportupdate.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/954605353/m/2577004176Good work VK. Did he act alone???
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Post by Smetchlock Smomes on Apr 7, 2015 0:50:43 GMT -5
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Post by rusVan on Apr 7, 2015 1:11:56 GMT -5
I wonder why Travis changed his photo bucket setting to private all of a sudden? Like I said in my previous post, his actions are making him look very guilty. That action blocks all of his photobucket pics, that he has used in UG and other sites, from being seen, and to buy himself time to destroy the evidence -delete or modify his pictures. He better hope none of the collectors he ripped off have relatives in law enforcement or in the court system! Hopefully it won't go that far! He just needs to give 100% refunds ASAP to the collectors he duped. If Travis refuses, those 36+ collectors could file PayPal cases, to try to get their money back. Just a thought!
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Post by rosenhoot on Apr 7, 2015 1:18:48 GMT -5
"btw dont you already have a set of these?"
Is this in response to me wanting a set? If so, please explain as I don't follow.
After reading all these posts from multiple sites/forums it looks like Travis is the bad guy in all of this, which sucks, I truly just want a set of these cards...for real.
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Post by Cory on Apr 7, 2015 1:30:04 GMT -5
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Post by Cory on Apr 7, 2015 1:32:01 GMT -5
"btw dont you already have a set of these?" Is this in response to me wanting a set? If so, please explain as I don't follow. After reading all these posts from multiple sites/forums it looks like Travis is the bad guy in all of this, which sucks, I truly just want a set of these cards...for real. Hi Rose, It's not odd that you'd like a set of bootleg cards. Some people really love that stuff. One of our former members, TCT really got into bootleg GPK stuff. If you want to pick up a set, post a wanted thread in the Trade Depot. There might be some sellers very soon. 
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Post by rosenhoot on Apr 7, 2015 7:33:45 GMT -5
"btw dont you already have a set of these?" Is this in response to me wanting a set? If so, please explain as I don't follow. After reading all these posts from multiple sites/forums it looks like Travis is the bad guy in all of this, which sucks, I truly just want a set of these cards...for real. Hi Rose, It's not odd that you'd like a set of bootleg cards. Some people really love that stuff. One of our former members, TCT really got into bootleg GPK stuff. If you want to pick up a set, post a wanted thread in the Trade Depot. There might be some sellers very soon.  Cory, thank you for posting all this sad information. It really is a disappointing day for GPK and the UG, but glad to see there are facts to this story and it is not just a witch hunt .
I'm sure I can pick up a set soon enough They'll fit right in with my GPK adults.
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Post by Doug Food on Apr 7, 2015 8:46:34 GMT -5
This is a shame I always thought there was something off with Travis but I never thought he was out to scam all of us. I bought this set from him when he first offered it so I only paid $25 I think it was but its not this set I am concerned about being fake. Its the Garbage can Dan cards he had for sale garbagepailkids.proboards.com/thread/15030/garbage-dan-cards-saleI bought both variations from him now I wonder if they are even originals. They are pretty tough to come by and he had many of them for sale. 
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Post by Cory on Apr 7, 2015 8:58:26 GMT -5
This is a shame I always thought there was something off with Travis but I never thought he was out to scam all of us. I bought this set from him when he first offered it so I only paid $25 I think it was but its not this set I am concerned about being fake. Its the Garbage can Dan cards he had for sale garbagepailkids.proboards.com/thread/15030/garbage-dan-cards-saleI bought both variations from him now I wonder if they are even originals. They are pretty tough to come by and he had many of them for sale.  Good point Doug. In that thread he states that all of the GCDs are bootlegs. There were two different types of bootlegs though. One two card set printed up as part of a quasi-Fan Set and then just straight up reprints of the bootlegs. He stated he had both versions (of both varaiations) available for sale but It'd be hard to figure out if you got what you paid for. It's tough to authenticate between a bootleg and a reprint of a bootleg. You'd have to assume that all of the original bootleg cards were printed consistently, like commercial cards are. This thread is a prime example of how the Hundreds sets should have been presented to buyers. They're bootlegs, but they're cool and this is the only way we can get physical copies in our collection. He even tells everyone who is producing them. It seems all of this information was withheld for the Hundreds set.
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Post by Fermentis on Apr 7, 2015 9:27:53 GMT -5
This is a shame I always thought there was something off with Travis but I never thought he was out to scam all of us. I bought this set from him when he first offered it so I only paid $25 I think it was but its not this set I am concerned about being fake. Its the Garbage can Dan cards he had for sale garbagepailkids.proboards.com/thread/15030/garbage-dan-cards-saleI bought both variations from him now I wonder if they are even originals. They are pretty tough to come by and he had many of them for sale.  and a s**ty sidenote, i happen to have recently found out he had a bountiful supply of those Dan card.  which as well makes me wonder about the originality as well. same with my smilin stan promo that he and alvin were giving away. i'm not sure if i could tell it's a fake or not, without beating it up which i don't want to do
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