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Post by seymourbarf on Apr 20, 2018 19:40:35 GMT -5
I bought a lot of about 1100-1200 original series GPKs on eBay last week, and I started going through them today. After a first pass through, I've weeded out about 150 counterfeit cards. The fakes are all from series 2 and 3. I've never encountered fake cards before (at least not that I know of), but I can tell they are fake because the card stock is different, the colors are off, and/or the cut is very amateur.
I am going to take a second pass through them, because my intention is to re-sell them and I don't want to include any fakes. Is there anything else I should be looking out for to help identify the fakes? I'm not going to confirm that the card numbers and copyright dates are correct, because that would take hours. But is there anything I haven't thought of that would help me quickly weed them out?
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Post by antiqueman98 on Apr 21, 2018 2:19:37 GMT -5
I bought a lot of about 1100-1200 original series GPKs on eBay last week, and I started going through them today. After a first pass through, I've weeded out about 150 counterfeit cards. The fakes are all from series 2 and 3. I've never encountered fake cards before (at least not that I know of), but I can tell they are fake because the card stock is different, the colors are off, and/or the cut is very amateur. I am going to take a second pass through them, because my intention is to re-sell them and I don't want to include any fakes. Is there anything else I should be looking out for to help identify the fakes? I'm not going to confirm that the card numbers and copyright dates are correct, because that would take hours. But is there anything I haven't thought of that would help me quickly weed them out? PSA!! Just jiving jive turkey that would cost a fortune. If you sell some fakes I would love to have a few just for reference I’m sure a lot of us are curious. Damn China most likely I can’t believe the quality of fakes I’ve seen (coins, wife’s hand bags) it’s so insane. |
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Post by seymourbarf on Apr 21, 2018 7:38:43 GMT -5
I bought a lot of about 1100-1200 original series GPKs on eBay last week, and I started going through them today. After a first pass through, I've weeded out about 150 counterfeit cards. The fakes are all from series 2 and 3. I've never encountered fake cards before (at least not that I know of), but I can tell they are fake because the card stock is different, the colors are off, and/or the cut is very amateur. I am going to take a second pass through them, because my intention is to re-sell them and I don't want to include any fakes. Is there anything else I should be looking out for to help identify the fakes? I'm not going to confirm that the card numbers and copyright dates are correct, because that would take hours. But is there anything I haven't thought of that would help me quickly weed them out? PSA!! Just jiving jive turkey that would cost a fortune. If you sell some fakes I would love to have a few just for reference I’m sure a lot of us are curious. Damn China most likely I can’t believe the quality of fakes I’ve seen (coins, wife’s hand bags) it’s so insane. Hey, I'd happily throw a few in an envelope if you DM me your address. But don't expect quality craftsmanship, these things are P.O.S. |
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Post by El-Jefe on Apr 21, 2018 10:57:32 GMT -5
They have popped up here and there. There is a thread that someone posted a while back regarding a os2 fake sheet.
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Post by seymourbarf on Apr 21, 2018 19:07:49 GMT -5
They have popped up here and there. There is a thread that someone posted a while back regarding a os2 fake sheet. Cool, I'll take a look, thanks. They are really interesting. More rare than actual OS2 cards, as far as I've seen. I've handled hundreds if not thousands of OS2 cards, these are the first fakes I've encountered. |
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Post by antiqueman98 on Apr 21, 2018 20:16:32 GMT -5
PSA!! Just jiving jive turkey that would cost a fortune. If you sell some fakes I would love to have a few just for reference I’m sure a lot of us are curious. Damn China most likely I can’t believe the quality of fakes I’ve seen (coins, wife’s hand bags) it’s so insane. Hey, I'd happily throw a few in an envelope if you DM me your address. But don't expect quality craftsmanship, these things are P.O.S. It’s amazing what people will fake. There are fake coins and sports cards in fake psa holders from China. If GPK gets a lot more expensive for OS1, I wouldn’t be surprised to see fake cards in fake holders... Rant over- remember in a discussion months back I talked about spending $1000 on a $20 nicely crafted 1799 dollar so I’m very jaded...whew |
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Post by seymourbarf on Apr 22, 2018 7:49:16 GMT -5
Hey, I'd happily throw a few in an envelope if you DM me your address. But don't expect quality craftsmanship, these things are P.O.S. It’s amazing what people will fake. There are fake coins and sports cards in fake psa holders from China. If GPK gets a lot more expensive for OS1, I wouldn’t be surprised to see fake cards in fake holders... Rant over- remember in a discussion months back I talked about spending $1000 on a $20 nicely crafted 1799 dollar so I’m very jaded...whew Sorry about that coin incident. I can only imagine how much that sucks. But I've seen Nasty Nicks sell for over $1000, so Chinese fakes may already be here. That's why we should buy only OS11 cards, PSA 5 or worse. |
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Post by antiqueman98 on Apr 22, 2018 7:51:40 GMT -5
It’s amazing what people will fake. There are fake coins and sports cards in fake psa holders from China. If GPK gets a lot more expensive for OS1, I wouldn’t be surprised to see fake cards in fake holders... Rant over- remember in a discussion months back I talked about spending $1000 on a $20 nicely crafted 1799 dollar so I’m very jaded...whew I've seen Nasty Nicks sell for over $1000. Chinese fakes may already be here. That's why we should buy only OS11 cards, PSA 5 or worse. You’re not wrong I bet there’s a sweat shop mastering them right now! Scary and pathetic |
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Post by LuCypher on Apr 22, 2018 9:17:44 GMT -5
I bought a lot of about 1100-1200 original series GPKs on eBay last week, and I started going through them today. After a first pass through, I've weeded out about 150 counterfeit cards. The fakes are all from series 2 and 3. I've never encountered fake cards before (at least not that I know of), but I can tell they are fake because the card stock is different, the colors are off, and/or the cut is very amateur. I am going to take a second pass through them, because my intention is to re-sell them and I don't want to include any fakes. Is there anything else I should be looking out for to help identify the fakes? I'm not going to confirm that the card numbers and copyright dates are correct, because that would take hours. But is there anything I haven't thought of that would help me quickly weed them out? I remember seeing some fake OS2 sheet pics on FB and they had “made in Taiwan” printed on them. Got pics of the fakes? |
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Post by seymourbarf on Apr 22, 2018 9:49:56 GMT -5
I remember seeing some fake OS2 sheet pics on FB and they had “made in Taiwan” printed on them. Got pics of the fakes? I don't see anything that says "Made in Taiwan", but here are some pics:   You can see these are horribly miscut, and that the colors are over-saturated on the front and muted on the back. You can also see (especially on Smelly Kelly) that the printer left weird coloration (see above the GPK banner).   Here again, you see the colors are off and the cards are miscut. Also, there are these weird "ghost" die cut lines on the front of the cards. They aren't actually double-die cut, but there is an outline as if they were. On the back of Ray Gun, you can see there is a dark field on which the "GPK 2nd Series Checklist" header sits. Like this was a photo-copied image of a real card.   And here are a couple of the OS3 cards. Again, very muted coloring on the front, and terrible cutting. Also, most of these cards are on lesser quality card stock than real GPKs. It's almost like thick paper, rather than a card. And most of them don't have that waxy coating that real GPKs have. See that OS2 Live Mike back, for instance. It looks like a matte finish, even though OS2 didn't have matte Live Mike backs. That's because there is no waxy quality to it, it's just faded paper. Maybe *some* of these 150+ cards are real GPKs that were poorly hand-cut from uncut sheets. But most of them are clearly fakes. |
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Post by LuCypher on Apr 22, 2018 10:09:59 GMT -5
I remember seeing some fake OS2 sheet pics on FB and they had “made in Taiwan” printed on them. Got pics of the fakes? I don't see anything that says "Made in Taiwan", but here are some pics: You can see these are horribly miscut, and that the colors are muted. You can also see (especially on Smelly Kelly) that the printer left weird coloration (see above the GPK banner). Here again, you see the colors are muted and the cards are miscut. Also, there are these weird "ghost" die cut lines on the front of the cards. They aren't actually double-die cut, but there is an outline as if they were. On the back of Ray Gun, you can see there is a dark field on which the "GPK 2nd Series Checklist" header sits. Like this was a photo-copied image of a real card. And here are a couple of the OS3 cards. Again, very muted coloring on the front, and terrible cutting. Also, most of these cards are on lesser quality card stock than real GPKs. It's almost like thick paper, rather than a card. And most of them don't have that waxy coating that real GPKs have. See that OS2 Live Mike back, for instance. It looks like a matte finish, even though OS2 didn't have matte Live Mike backs. That's because there is no waxy quality to it, it's just faded paper. Maybe *some* of these 150+ cards are real GPKs that were poorly hand-cut from uncut sheets. But most of them are clearly fakes. Ouch! Looks like a somebody took some left-handed scissors to those 😵 I found pics of the bootleg “made in Taiwan” sheets.   |
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Post by seymourbarf on Apr 22, 2018 10:11:57 GMT -5
I don't see anything that says "Made in Taiwan", but here are some pics: You can see these are horribly miscut, and that the colors are muted. You can also see (especially on Smelly Kelly) that the printer left weird coloration (see above the GPK banner). Here again, you see the colors are muted and the cards are miscut. Also, there are these weird "ghost" die cut lines on the front of the cards. They aren't actually double-die cut, but there is an outline as if they were. On the back of Ray Gun, you can see there is a dark field on which the "GPK 2nd Series Checklist" header sits. Like this was a photo-copied image of a real card. And here are a couple of the OS3 cards. Again, very muted coloring on the front, and terrible cutting. Also, most of these cards are on lesser quality card stock than real GPKs. It's almost like thick paper, rather than a card. And most of them don't have that waxy coating that real GPKs have. See that OS2 Live Mike back, for instance. It looks like a matte finish, even though OS2 didn't have matte Live Mike backs. That's because there is no waxy quality to it, it's just faded paper. Maybe *some* of these 150+ cards are real GPKs that were poorly hand-cut from uncut sheets. But most of them are clearly fakes. Ouch! Looks like a somebody took some left-handed scissors to those 😵 I found pics of the bootleg “made in Taiwan” sheets. Oh I see, the sheet says Made in Taiwan. Then some of my cards may have been cut from these sheets. They have the same over-saturated coloring. |
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Post by antiqueman98 on Apr 22, 2018 10:15:22 GMT -5
I've seen Nasty Nicks sell for over $1000. Chinese fakes may already be here. That's why we should buy only OS11 cards, PSA 5 or worse. You’re not wrong I bet there’s a sweat shop mastering them right now! Scary and pathetic Awesome!! There’s something interesting about them 🤯😋🔫 |
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Post by tommy4ya on Apr 22, 2018 12:45:26 GMT -5
I bought a lot of about 1100-1200 original series GPKs on eBay last week, and I started going through them today. After a first pass through, I've weeded out about 150 counterfeit cards. The fakes are all from series 2 and 3. I've never encountered fake cards before (at least not that I know of), but I can tell they are fake because the card stock is different, the colors are off, and/or the cut is very amateur. I am going to take a second pass through them, because my intention is to re-sell them and I don't want to include any fakes. Is there anything else I should be looking out for to help identify the fakes? I'm not going to confirm that the card numbers and copyright dates are correct, because that would take hours. But is there anything I haven't thought of that would help me quickly weed them out? I remember seeing some fake OS2 sheet pics on FB and they had “made in Taiwan” printed on them. Got pics of the fakes? You should get 4sharpcorners to submit these to PSA for you. They should get plenty of 9s out of these, some 10s too. |
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Post by antiqueman98 on Apr 22, 2018 13:04:58 GMT -5
I remember seeing some fake OS2 sheet pics on FB and they had “made in Taiwan” printed on them. Got pics of the fakes? I don't see anything that says "Made in Taiwan", but here are some pics: You can see these are horribly miscut, and that the colors are over-saturated on the front and muted on the back. You can also see (especially on Smelly Kelly) that the printer left weird coloration (see above the GPK banner). Here again, you see the colors are off and the cards are miscut. Also, there are these weird "ghost" die cut lines on the front of the cards. They aren't actually double-die cut, but there is an outline as if they were. On the back of Ray Gun, you can see there is a dark field on which the "GPK 2nd Series Checklist" header sits. Like this was a photo-copied image of a real card. And here are a couple of the OS3 cards. Again, very muted coloring on the front, and terrible cutting. Also, most of these cards are on lesser quality card stock than real GPKs. It's almost like thick paper, rather than a card. And most of them don't have that waxy coating that real GPKs have. See that OS2 Live Mike back, for instance. It looks like a matte finish, even though OS2 didn't have matte Live Mike backs. That's because there is no waxy quality to it, it's just faded paper. Maybe *some* of these 150+ cards are real GPKs that were poorly hand-cut from uncut sheets. But most of them are clearly fakes. It literally looks like they may have had kids cut them yikes 😆 |
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Post by tommy4ya on Apr 22, 2018 14:23:39 GMT -5
I don't see anything that says "Made in Taiwan", but here are some pics: You can see these are horribly miscut, and that the colors are over-saturated on the front and muted on the back. You can also see (especially on Smelly Kelly) that the printer left weird coloration (see above the GPK banner). Here again, you see the colors are off and the cards are miscut. Also, there are these weird "ghost" die cut lines on the front of the cards. They aren't actually double-die cut, but there is an outline as if they were. On the back of Ray Gun, you can see there is a dark field on which the "GPK 2nd Series Checklist" header sits. Like this was a photo-copied image of a real card. And here are a couple of the OS3 cards. Again, very muted coloring on the front, and terrible cutting. Also, most of these cards are on lesser quality card stock than real GPKs. It's almost like thick paper, rather than a card. And most of them don't have that waxy coating that real GPKs have. See that OS2 Live Mike back, for instance. It looks like a matte finish, even though OS2 didn't have matte Live Mike backs. That's because there is no waxy quality to it, it's just faded paper. Maybe *some* of these 150+ cards are real GPKs that were poorly hand-cut from uncut sheets. But most of them are clearly fakes. It literally looks like they may have had kids cut them yikes 😆 If they came from China kids probably manufactured them. So you're right kids did cut them out. |
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Post by antiqueman98 on Apr 22, 2018 16:40:07 GMT -5
It literally looks like they may have had kids cut them yikes 😆 If they came from China kids probably manufactured them. So you're right kids did cut them out. It is interesting to say the least |
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Post by seymourbarf on Apr 22, 2018 18:59:24 GMT -5
I remember seeing some fake OS2 sheet pics on FB and they had “made in Taiwan” printed on them. Got pics of the fakes? You should get 4sharpcorners to submit these to PSA for you. They should get plenty of 9s out of these, some 10s too. You are so bitchy. I love it! |
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Post by riki-oh on May 3, 2018 14:20:22 GMT -5
I'd gladly take a few if you're wanting to get rid of any of these, I like bootleg/off brand/fake things for some retarded reason.
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Post by seymourbarf on May 3, 2018 14:34:18 GMT -5
I'd gladly take a few if you're wanting to get rid of any of these, I like bootleg/off brand/fake things for some retarded reason. Ah s**t. I gladly would have sent you a few, but I sold the lot on eBay and mailed it out this morning. Sorry. |
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Post by riki-oh on May 3, 2018 14:57:34 GMT -5
Ahh dang, too late! I appreciate it though man.
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Post by GPKDNA79 on May 5, 2018 0:20:20 GMT -5
They have popped up here and there. There is a thread that someone posted a while back regarding a os2 fake sheet. Cool, I'll take a look, thanks. They are really interesting. More rare than actual OS2 cards, as far as I've seen. I've handled hundreds if not thousands of OS2 cards, these are the first fakes I've encountered. I have a bootleg sheet / technically sheets are half’s right. A full full sheet is a double wide if I’m not mistaken. But I have a half (quarter ) sheet, i’ll take some pictures of tomorrow, I don’t see made in tawainn anywhere. The back look really really good you can’t tell it’s a copy, but It’s 10 Card rows. And 11 Is the accurate number it should have. |
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Post by GPKDNA79 on May 5, 2018 0:23:11 GMT -5
I remember seeing some fake OS2 sheet pics on FB and they had “made in Taiwan” printed on them. Got pics of the fakes? I don't see anything that says "Made in Taiwan", but here are some pics: You can see these are horribly miscut, and that the colors are over-saturated on the front and muted on the back. You can also see (especially on Smelly Kelly) that the printer left weird coloration (see above the GPK banner). Here again, you see the colors are off and the cards are miscut. Also, there are these weird "ghost" die cut lines on the front of the cards. They aren't actually double-die cut, but there is an outline as if they were. On the back of Ray Gun, you can see there is a dark field on which the "GPK 2nd Series Checklist" header sits. Like this was a photo-copied image of a real card. And here are a couple of the OS3 cards. Again, very muted coloring on the front, and terrible cutting. Also, most of these cards are on lesser quality card stock than real GPKs. It's almost like thick paper, rather than a card. And most of them don't have that waxy coating that real GPKs have. See that OS2 Live Mike back, for instance. It looks like a matte finish, even though OS2 didn't have matte Live Mike backs. That's because there is no waxy quality to it, it's just faded paper. Maybe *some* of these 150+ cards are real GPKs that were poorly hand-cut from uncut sheets. But most of them are clearly fakes. Definitely the worst cut job. Definitely some dull right handed scissors cut in someones left hand while wasted and trying to watch old school BATWATCH !!!! I mean why even continue to cut |
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Post by seymourbarf on May 5, 2018 20:03:57 GMT -5
I don't see anything that says "Made in Taiwan", but here are some pics: You can see these are horribly miscut, and that the colors are over-saturated on the front and muted on the back. You can also see (especially on Smelly Kelly) that the printer left weird coloration (see above the GPK banner). Here again, you see the colors are off and the cards are miscut. Also, there are these weird "ghost" die cut lines on the front of the cards. They aren't actually double-die cut, but there is an outline as if they were. On the back of Ray Gun, you can see there is a dark field on which the "GPK 2nd Series Checklist" header sits. Like this was a photo-copied image of a real card. And here are a couple of the OS3 cards. Again, very muted coloring on the front, and terrible cutting. Also, most of these cards are on lesser quality card stock than real GPKs. It's almost like thick paper, rather than a card. And most of them don't have that waxy coating that real GPKs have. See that OS2 Live Mike back, for instance. It looks like a matte finish, even though OS2 didn't have matte Live Mike backs. That's because there is no waxy quality to it, it's just faded paper. Maybe *some* of these 150+ cards are real GPKs that were poorly hand-cut from uncut sheets. But most of them are clearly fakes. Definitely the worst cut job. Definitely some dull right handed scissors cut in someones left hand while wasted and trying to watch old school BATWATCH !!!! I mean why even continue to cut I just imagine some cheap, scumbag father buying these for his kids for like a dollar and trying to pass them off as real GPKs. "Here you go, you little shits. Now get off my back! This prostitute's not gonna f**k herself." |
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Post by antiqueman98 on May 5, 2018 21:41:08 GMT -5
Definitely the worst cut job. Definitely some dull right handed scissors cut in someones left hand while wasted and trying to watch old school BATWATCH !!!! I mean why even continue to cut I just imagine some cheap, scumbag father buying these for his kids for like a dollar and trying to pass them off as real GPKs. "Here you go, you little shits. Now get off my back! This prostitute's not gonna f**k herself." Pretty true!! You have to be extremely cheap to have to buy bootleg GPK when they were 5 for a quarter!! And with the cutting they didn’t even care if people knew they were fake! I think a smart kid would be pissed! |
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Post by antiqueman98 on Jul 6, 2018 10:12:43 GMT -5
Probstein123 is selling fake Series 2 certified GPK’s take a look it’s uncanny. PSA is really oblivious to these I guess!! Wow
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Post by seymourbarf on Jul 6, 2018 10:42:22 GMT -5
Probstein123 is selling fake Series 2 certified GPK’s take a look it’s uncanny. PSA is really oblivious to these I guess!! Wow OMG, I think you're right. Look at the checkered background on Sumo Sid: www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Garbage-Pail-Kids-Stickers-Glossy-83b-Sumo-Sid-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/362374157913?hash=item545f2ed659:g:tykAAOSwucVbOqlyAlso, look at the ghost "double" die-cutting on Mixed Up Mitch: www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Garbage-Pail-Kids-Stickers-Glossy-81b-Mixed-Up-Mitch-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/372355476006?hash=item56b21daa26:g:SJUAAOSwvBpbOqcUThese conditions or issues are exactly like the ones I saw on that batch of counterfeit cards I had. I know those cards were counterfeit because the colors were off, the card stock was different, some were miscut, and some had ghost "double" die-cutting and checkered backgrounds from poor printing. So these cards Probstein is selling definitely look fake. Probstein sells on consignment, and doesn't deal just in GPKs, so he may not even know there's a problem. Also, PSA certified them, so why would Probstein be suspicious? But I can't believe PSA certified these obvious fakes. Great eye, antiqueman! Also, I wonder if the guy who bought my lot of fakes sumbitted them to PSA and then got Probstein to list them for him. It would give him some anonymity and protection from ebay if this is ever exposed. I'm not saying it's my buyer, but who knows? It's possible. Anyway, this is wild and also scary. We need to be very careful about what we're buying. Antiqueman, I know you've been burned before and are sensitive to this possibility. Thank you for bringing it to our attention! |
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Post by antiqueman98 on Jul 6, 2018 10:46:03 GMT -5
Probstein123 is selling fake Series 2 certified GPK’s take a look it’s uncanny. PSA is really oblivious to these I guess!! Wow OMG, I think you're right. Look at the checkered background on Sumo Sid: www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Garbage-Pail-Kids-Stickers-Glossy-83b-Sumo-Sid-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/362374157913?hash=item545f2ed659:g:tykAAOSwucVbOqlyAlso, look at the ghost "double" die-cutting on Mixed Up Mitch: www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Garbage-Pail-Kids-Stickers-Glossy-81b-Mixed-Up-Mitch-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/372355476006?hash=item56b21daa26:g:SJUAAOSwvBpbOqcUThese conditions or issues are exactly like the ones I saw on that batch of counterfeit cards I had. I know those cards were counterfeit because the colors were off, the card stock was different, some were miscut, and some had ghost "double" die-cutting and checkered backgrounds from poor printing. So these cards Probstein is selling definitely look fake. Probstein sells on consignment, and doesn't deal just in GPKs, so he may not even know there's a problem. Also, PSA certified them, so why would Probstein be suspicious? But I can't believe PSA certified these obvious fakes. Great eye, antiqueman! Also, I wonder if the guy who bought my lot of fakes sumbitted them to PSA and then got Probstein to list them for him. It would give him some anonymity and protection from ebay if this is ever exposed. I'm not saying it's my buyer, but who knows? It's possible. Anyway, this is wild and also scary. We need to be very careful about what we're buying. Antiqueman, I know you've been burned before and are sensitive to this possibility. Thank you for bringing it our attention! Thanks man. They’re interesting right? And you are so right I’m crazy careful. He has a lot of them. I don’t understand PSA slipping like that... Someone very cool gave me a few fakes to compare lol you rule!! |
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Post by creamedkeith on Jul 6, 2018 10:47:22 GMT -5
What's even crazier is that these say "glossy" but are matte!
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Post by antiqueman98 on Jul 6, 2018 10:48:32 GMT -5
What's even crazier is that these say "glossy" but are matte! Holy PEEP!! Very neat |
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Really cool box. I wish they had the Nasty Nick box too though 