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Post by Steve on Oct 24, 2017 14:28:41 GMT -5
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Post by GPKDNA79 on Oct 24, 2017 14:43:21 GMT -5
It’s called a “loaded” 4 indiviadual pieces that are found only in the Blaster boxes if I’m not mistaken. , THere has been issues that topps only puts 1 Card in the Blaster. And totaly screw up the “loaded “ . But people want the official Topps sketch /loaded /pano. And pay a lot for it
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Post by Steve on Oct 24, 2017 15:15:48 GMT -5
It’s called a “loaded” 4 indiviadual pieces that are found only in the Blaster boxes if I’m not mistaken. , THere has been issues that topps only puts 1 Card in the Blaster. And totaly screw up the “loaded “ . But people want the official Topps sketch /loaded /pano. And pay a lot for it Wow, talk about pissing your money away. People actually pay a lot of money for crappy art (sometimes) on 4 different cards with random name bars/logos scattered throughout? No wonder the hobby is in the toilet.
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Post by fowlraoul on Oct 24, 2017 16:01:01 GMT -5
That sketch is an atrocity. still boycotting topps, and happy to have picked up a couple more quality pieces from mark. im glad the dumbasses keep spending their money on crap gpk, more horroribles and disasters of the universe for me and my walls the only gpk sketches id ever bid on are mchughs or moffetts
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Post by Cory on Oct 24, 2017 17:20:33 GMT -5
Haha, this thing is trash. Sketch cards have always been trash to me. I just don't understand the appeal. Especially, because there are very good alternatives to get art directly from the artists.
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Post by tommy4ya on Oct 24, 2017 17:33:37 GMT -5
That sketch is an atrocity. still boycotting topps, and happy to have picked up a couple more quality pieces from mark. im glad the dumbasses keep spending their money on crap gpk, more horroribles and disasters of the universe for me and my walls the only gpk sketches id ever bid on are mchughs or moffetts I'm not even sure that Raoul even likes GPKs, I think he has some kind of fetish for M named artists. Mchughs, Moffett, Mark....need to capitalize on this somehow. Hey man have you heard about those sweet sketches from Mc4yaa?? Weird name I know but hes up and coming in the scene and his art is something to behold. Cash offers excepted.
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Post by Steve on Oct 24, 2017 17:42:57 GMT -5
That sketch is an atrocity. still boycotting topps, and happy to have picked up a couple more quality pieces from mark. im glad the dumbasses keep spending their money on crap gpk, more horroribles and disasters of the universe for me and my walls the only gpk sketches id ever bid on are mchughs or moffetts I can't believe anyone would pay cash for that mess in the auction I posted. I was really using that for an example of how bad these 'loaded' (thanks GPKDNA79) look but yea the artwork is atrocious and not worth anywhere near $250.
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Post by Steve on Oct 24, 2017 17:49:02 GMT -5
Haha, this thing is trash. Sketch cards have always been trash to me. I just don't understand the appeal. Especially, because there are very good alternatives to get art directly from the artists. I remember seeing some sketch cards selling for more than an OS Pound color rough. I'm like WTF is wrong with these people? These are the same people who pay $500 for some Sike Air Jordan's from Trailer Park Todd in the Walmart parking lot.
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Post by Cory on Oct 24, 2017 17:49:59 GMT -5
That sketch is an atrocity. still boycotting topps, and happy to have picked up a couple more quality pieces from mark. im glad the dumbasses keep spending their money on crap gpk, more horroribles and disasters of the universe for me and my walls the only gpk sketches id ever bid on are mchughs or moffetts I can't believe anyone would pay cash for that mess in the auction I posted. I was really using that for an example of how bad these 'loaded' (thanks GPKDNA79) look but yea the artwork is atrocious and not worth anywhere near $250. For $250 you could get a decent color rough from Mark and have some money left.
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Post by Cory on Oct 24, 2017 17:51:17 GMT -5
That sketch is an atrocity. still boycotting topps, and happy to have picked up a couple more quality pieces from mark. im glad the dumbasses keep spending their money on crap gpk, more horroribles and disasters of the universe for me and my walls the only gpk sketches id ever bid on are mchughs or moffetts I'm not even sure that Raoul even likes GPKs, I think he has some kind of fetish for M named artists. Mchughs, Moffett, Mark....need to capitalize on this somehow. Hey man have you heard about those sweet sketches from Mc4yaa?? Weird name I know but hes up and coming in the scene and his art is something to behold. Cash offers excepted. My favorite 'M' artist is Mr. Pound.
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Post by fowlraoul on Oct 24, 2017 17:53:30 GMT -5
That sketch is an atrocity. still boycotting topps, and happy to have picked up a couple more quality pieces from mark. im glad the dumbasses keep spending their money on crap gpk, more horroribles and disasters of the universe for me and my walls the only gpk sketches id ever bid on are mchughs or moffetts I'm not even sure that Raoul even likes GPKs, I think he has some kind of fetish for M named artists. Mchughs, Moffett, Mark....need to capitalize on this somehow. Hey man have you heard about those sweet sketches from Mc4yaa?? Weird name I know but hes up and coming in the scene and his art is something to behold. Cash offers excepted. Mmmmmm yeah! Dude, if you can scrounge me up a mc4yaa sketch, I’ll pay big rupees
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Post by liquidfox on Oct 24, 2017 18:52:22 GMT -5
Haha, this thing is trash. Sketch cards have always been trash to me. I just don't understand the appeal. Especially, because there are very good alternatives to get art directly from the artists. Disagree. We can thumb through my sketch card collection and I'd doubt you would use the word trash to describe the majority of the artwork. Sketch cards allow artist to provide interesting perspectives and their own stab at some of the characters from the franchise. I am not defending a lot of the recent sketch cards that's Topps has included in their sets but just letting you know you might want to pump your brakes a little bit on the broad swath statements. Stupid, waste of money or not my thing, I can agree with but not trash.
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Post by GPKDNA79 on Oct 24, 2017 19:23:13 GMT -5
It’s called a “loaded” 4 indiviadual pieces that are found only in the Blaster boxes if I’m not mistaken. , THere has been issues that topps only puts 1 Card in the Blaster. And totaly screw up the “loaded “ . But people want the official Topps sketch /loaded /pano. And pay a lot for it Wow, talk about pissing your money away. People actually pay a lot of money for crappy art (sometimes) on 4 different cards with random name bars/logos scattered throughout? No wonder the hobby is in the toilet. I agree I have no interest in any sketches I don’t want a a drawing of Adam Bomb by Joe Schmo. I want it by the original artist. I have seen some nice replicas. Ping has done some greats. And other artists. It’s kinda like a forgery No pun to anyone
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Post by GPKDNA79 on Oct 24, 2017 19:30:35 GMT -5
Haha, this thing is trash. Sketch cards have always been trash to me. I just don't understand the appeal. Especially, because there are very good alternatives to get art directly from the artists. I remember seeing some sketch cards selling for more than an OS Pound color rough. I'm like WTF is wrong with these people? These are the same people who pay $500 for some Sike Air Jordan's from Trailer Park Todd in the Walmart parking lot. Artis MEEKS (I don’t lnow him ). Recent panos went for almost $1k for a Group of characters. I couldn’t believe it. Eveyone was posting how amazing it was and worth every penny. No thank you
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Post by GPKDNA79 on Oct 24, 2017 19:40:18 GMT -5
Haha, this thing is trash. Sketch cards have always been trash to me. I just don't understand the appeal. Especially, because there are very good alternatives to get art directly from the artists. Disagree. We can thumb through my sketch card collection and I'd doubt you would use the word trash to describe the majority of the artwork. Sketch cards allow artist to provide interesting perspectives and their own stab at some of the characters from the franchise. I am not defending a lot of the recent sketch cards that's Topps has included in their sets but just letting you know you might want to pump your brakes a little bit on the broad swath statements. Stupid, waste of money or not my thing, I can agree with but not trash. I will say there are some amazing ones. matthew white. Someone I talk to regularly Is a new GpK artist. He is a portrait artist. He can nail any character. Anything. He can see But he still is someone copying another artist creation. .
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 24, 2017 20:00:11 GMT -5
Good post. I'll never understand the sketch card craze either.
Now some of these guys are super talented. That is for sure. But really what do they have to do with GPK? Not much.
Steve makes the best point. For near the same money you can get actual final or rough art that was used to create the card directly from the artist. End of story.
Name bars and GPK banners totally ruin those 4 card sketches. It looks dumb. Just give the artists blank cards. WTF.
The most interesting aspect of the sketch cards is that these things lose value at an astonishing rate. Everyone freaks out when a new set is released and pays a lot for the sketch cards. As soon as the next set is released, you couldn't give away the sketches from the previous sets. I'm sure there are some that hold their value, but not much.
I feel the same thing about all the autograph cards. Especially the Pound and Bunk chrome autos. Those things go for hundreds of dollars sometimes. For my money I'd much rather have a Pound/Bunk auto on a actual OS card.
Anyways, not a fan of the sketch cards.
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Post by Cory on Oct 24, 2017 20:08:23 GMT -5
Haha, this thing is trash. Sketch cards have always been trash to me. I just don't understand the appeal. Especially, because there are very good alternatives to get art directly from the artists. Disagree. We can thumb through my sketch card collection and I'd doubt you would use the word trash to describe the majority of the artwork. Sketch cards allow artist to provide interesting perspectives and their own stab at some of the characters from the franchise. I am not defending a lot of the recent sketch cards that's Topps has included in their sets but just letting you know you might want to pump your brakes a little bit on the broad swath statements. Stupid, waste of money or not my thing, I can agree with but not trash. Saying sketches are trash to me is simply saying I find no value in their existence. I've said many times that there is some great art on the cards, yet I've always maintained that they are worthless to me. So don't take the word trash so literal. Even the sketch in this auction isn't literal trash. I've also said many times that I like that people can collect things that interest them. Sketches, Skateboards, Online Sets, New GPK sets are all things I don't care for, but there is a market for it. Doesn't mean I won't poke fun at those things from time to time.
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Post by Cory on Oct 24, 2017 20:14:39 GMT -5
Good post. I'll never understand the sketch card craze either. Now some of these guys are super talented. That is for sure. But really what do they have to do with GPK? Not much. Steve makes the best point. For near the same money you can get actual final or rough art that was used to create the card directly from the artist. End of story. Name bars and GPK banners totally ruin those 4 card sketches. It looks dumb. Just give the artists blank cards. WTF. The most interesting aspect of the sketch cards is that these things lose value at an astonishing rate. Everyone freaks out when a new set is released and pays a lot for the sketch cards. As soon as the next set is released, you couldn't give away the sketches from the previous sets. I'm sure there are some that hold their value, but not much. I feel the same thing about all the autograph cards. Especially the Pound and Bunk chrome autos. Those things go for hundreds of dollars sometimes. For my money I'd much rather have a Pound/Bunk auto on a actual OS card. Anyways, not a fan of the sketch cards. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Most hardcore art collectors won't ever get the sketch market. They place value in original art and the history that comes with it. I own sketches that I haven't looked at on over a decade. I just have them to complete a set, nothing more. Same thing with all the plates and subsets I own.
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Post by Steve on Oct 25, 2017 3:43:44 GMT -5
Good post. I'll never understand the sketch card craze either. Now some of these guys are super talented. That is for sure. But really what do they have to do with GPK? Not much. Steve makes the best point. For near the same money you can get actual final or rough art that was used to create the card directly from the artist. End of story. Name bars and GPK banners totally ruin those 4 card sketches. It looks dumb. Just give the artists blank cards. WTF. The most interesting aspect of the sketch cards is that these things lose value at an astonishing rate. Everyone freaks out when a new set is released and pays a lot for the sketch cards. As soon as the next set is released, you couldn't give away the sketches from the previous sets. I'm sure there are some that hold their value, but not much. I feel the same thing about all the autograph cards. Especially the Pound and Bunk chrome autos. Those things go for hundreds of dollars sometimes. For my money I'd much rather have a Pound/Bunk auto on a actual OS card. Anyways, not a fan of the sketch cards. Spot on, Jimbo. I'm definitely not knocking anyone for collecting sketch cards, we all like what we like. But dollar for dollar, the value of a sketch card should be no where near what a John Pound OS art piece is worth yet people have dropped $1k on average at best sketch cards. Excellent point on value retention. In 15 years, is anyone going to remember who GPK Fan Artist "Tilson" is? Hell, I don't even know who that is now. Not knocking the person, but he is merely a fan artist who Topps cashed in on when they got into the Fan Art market. If you ask me, $25 - $30 is what these fan artist sketch cards should be selling for. Not $100 - $175. That's insane.
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Post by creamedkeith on Oct 25, 2017 6:48:29 GMT -5
It's interesting to read these opinions. I think the UG has more of the purists, and fans of artwork, while eBay has more fans of cards/collectibles. While I too would rather own originals from Pound/Bunk, I do own some sketch cards that I really like. There is definitely a big gap in artist talent, and I stick to the artists I really like (Wheaton, Pingitore, etc.). There is definitely a value to the cards, but I agree people go overboard on eBay. I think the artists charge like $250 for those full-color return sketches. I have seem some really terrible artwork where I wouldn't even want it in my collection for free.
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Post by tommy4ya on Oct 25, 2017 7:37:07 GMT -5
I'm not even sure that Raoul even likes GPKs, I think he has some kind of fetish for M named artists. Mchughs, Moffett, Mark....need to capitalize on this somehow. Hey man have you heard about those sweet sketches from Mc4yaa?? Weird name I know but hes up and coming in the scene and his art is something to behold. Cash offers excepted. Mmmmmm yeah! Dude, if you can scrounge me up a mc4yaa sketch, I’ll pay big rupees Oh yeh!!! I'm so pumped!!! My first commission gig, and payment in rupees, thats almost like real money. Times like these I get sentimental and think of the wise words my mentor Mark Pingitore said to me. "If I catch you digging through my trash again I'll kill you". Sounds hard but I think what he meant was chase your dreams and make them happen, lifes a ship and you're the captain. My dreams have come true today...Jai Ho!!!!!
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Post by Steve on Oct 25, 2017 18:21:19 GMT -5
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 25, 2017 19:41:52 GMT -5
Steve is clearly not a trained art connoisseur. The upside down GPK logos add so much depth to this piece. The random blank yellow name bars tie everything together and bring the eye to the center of the fantastic art. This sketch destroys any color rough or final. I might even say it rivals DTAB.
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Post by Game8 on Oct 26, 2017 7:09:36 GMT -5
Yeah for $350 you can get 2 color roughs from mark or just add $150 and buy a final. Not only do you get beautiful art work but you support the artist directly. Tbo this one is not to bad though. I have seen some pass by on fb that were really bad and for some reason get many likes and reactions. Then i see mark post stuff and get a handfull of likes. I guess its all about the banner. And not bashing all sketch card artists because there are some really great one's out there.
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Post by creamedkeith on Nov 8, 2017 9:27:01 GMT -5
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