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Post by ADAM Bomb on Oct 26, 2016 18:37:20 GMT -5
Can someone post here, or PM me, what were Pound's issues with Topps?
I heard somewhere it was not fully just to do his code art.
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Post by GPKDNA79 on Oct 26, 2016 19:51:25 GMT -5
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 26, 2016 20:54:37 GMT -5
Topps strikes again! God forbid Matt sells a few GPK decals to help pay to keep his website going. Hey Topps, you realize these websites are free promotion for your SH**** products right?  |
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Post by liquidfox on Oct 26, 2016 21:04:19 GMT -5
Can someone post here, or PM me, what were Pound's issues with Topps? I heard somewhere it was not fully just to do his code art. Yea, do tell....  |
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Post by El-Jefe on Oct 26, 2016 21:08:21 GMT -5
Mr.Diaz, great post!
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Post by Wayco on Oct 26, 2016 21:11:49 GMT -5
Wow, it's such a small amount of money compared to them anyway....who cares. Terrible, Mark has a passion for GPK and Topps is making him stop his thing!?! Ouch.
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Post by rusVan on Oct 26, 2016 23:48:59 GMT -5
It is time the collectors unite to boycott future Topps releases.
GPK has lost its cool factor, it's now just meaningless sold-out mainstream fodder (Chrome Series One was the beginning of THE END). The January set is going to suck, everyone knows it. The set after the January set is going to suck too, they are going to be as ugly as the online political shitcards. The ones running the show at Topps and handling the Garbage Pail Kids products need to quit and go work for Xavier Roberts and work with Cabbage Patch Kids dolls.
Sending Cease and Desist letters are what Xavier Roberts and his lawyers sent to John Pound and Topps in the 80's. Roberts is the biggest douche bag in nonsportcards-related history for ruining the classic look of GPK, and now the directors at the Topps in 2016 are behaving like Xavier Roberts. Topps has officially lost its way, and refuses to respect their fanbase. #BOYCOTTTOPPSPRODUCTSNOW
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Post by rusVan on Oct 27, 2016 0:03:43 GMT -5
I think what Mark has made would hold up in court. It's a parody of a parody and we all know that MAD Magazine fought and won that fight a long time ago. However, they can just simply tell him that they'll no longer employ him which they can do anytime they want according to U.S. labor laws. He was doing better work than Topps art directors, which reflects pretty badly on the current art directors. They were simply being outperformed and they probably know it. you are right, it PROBABLY wouldnt hold water in court....but most folks cant afford all the lawyer fees to protect themselves in these scenarios. we're talking BOATLOADS of cash, big companies know this, that's why they do it. they know they have the bankroll to tie somebody up for a year while they sink them financially whether topps would win or not they ultimately WIN in the big picture scenario. financially crippling the other party. topps is flat out garbage, and i dont miss collecting their bullshlt. GIVES ME MORE MONEY FOR CHEAP TOYS. this message brought to you by the foundation to make people start collecting cheap toys 30 years later. Yeah, I'm surprised anyone still SERIOUSLY collects trading cards anymore.  Art, Cheap Toys, Foreign albums... that's where it is at!!  (It's also where Topps can't ruin the collecting experience for you). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>joinusandcollectcheaptoyslivealifeofpeaceleavethetradingcardcollectinggametothenewbiesandtheunderachievers<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< |
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Post by madmadonnawitch on Oct 27, 2016 1:17:04 GMT -5
Some of you say my sets are expensive, but then spend thousands a year on Topps crap. When you buy from artists who usually doesn't have $5000 laying around things are a little more expensive. It costs more money to do the right thing. That is why good food costs more money than fast food. Same s**t. Takes time and energy to do the right thing. Yeah I definitely can't afford the $200 half sets of Parody Kids, and I've never bought anything from topps that was that much. I've basically bought the full sets that are around $15-$30, which is more in my range. I went outside of that for the Horrorible Kids which were $50, because it's something I really wanted to support and I had the money to do so. Plus the cards seem badass. Your $10 3 card sets are definitely more affordable for me so I'll be buying those in the future. So much better than $10 for ONE card from Topps. Like what the hell lol. They act like the cards are infused with gold. I absolutely love your Saw parody card btw. It's probably one of the funniest GPK related things I've seen in a long time. I'll also add that I've very much been in the mindset of buying entire sets which doesn't really work when buying art straight from the artists, because they are more expensive to produce. So I'll have to get out of that mindset in the future. |
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Post by fowlraoul on Oct 27, 2016 2:35:36 GMT -5
It is time the collectors unite to boycott future Topps releases. GPK has lost its cool factor, it's now just meaningless sold-out mainstream fodder (Chrome Series One was the beginning of THE END). The January set is going to suck, everyone knows it. The set after the January set is going to suck too, they are going to be as ugly as the online political shitcards. The ones running the show at Topps and handling the Garbage Pail Kids products need to quit and go work for Xavier Roberts and work with Cabbage Patch Kids dolls. Sending Cease and Desist letters are what Xavier Roberts and his lawyers sent to John Pound and Topps in the 80's. Roberts is the biggest douche bag in nonsportcards-related history for ruining the classic look of GPK, and now the directors at the Topps in 2016 are behaving like Xavier Roberts. Topps has officially lost its way, and refuses to respect their fanbase. #BOYCOTTTOPPSPRODUCTSNOW A-flipping-men  |
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Post by aeneuman on Oct 27, 2016 2:39:49 GMT -5
Luis, all really well said and argued. Because you are an honest person, I'll offer my honest opinion too. I also think your paintings would be flying off the shelf if they were a little less expensive. As it is now, I would have to pass over 3 new GPK paintings to buy one of yours. I'm not saying it isn't worth that, I'm just saying there a limit to what most can afford. And because I don't collect the cards (Topps or otherwise), I gravitate to the final art. But believe me when I say that there's nothing I'd want more than to have more of your paintings on the wall, I just wish they were a little less expensive is all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 13:56:12 GMT -5
You might be thinking I have my old ANS work. Not sure if you are talking about my Parody paintings. I sold a lot of my early ANS paintings for a small amount of money. ($500-700) Some later ones were about the price I sell my Parody Kids today, but not many. I see those ANS paintings every so often going for 10x what I got from it. I think it's not really fair the system we have in place for artists and I'm probably alone here. In some places in Europe every time you sell an artist's work they get a percentage. I think that is totally fair since there is only one of those. We can argue about that all day long, but in California their is a 5% royalty law (which a lot of people try to avoid). It is an incentive so the artist can continue to work on their work so that they make more art that can continue to appreciate in value. So selling my pieces for a meager $1250 or so seems fair to me. Of course you have to walk in my shoes to understand. I've sold some paintings to supposedly hardcore fans and I'd give them a good deal and a month later I see them selling it for 3x the amount to someone else. They were telling how they would never sell it one moment and then they go off and sell it for a lot more. What the f**k is that about? In all honesty I think people only want to buy my "Official" stuff. I don't have any of that any more. I also don't think that that is how I was planning to retire and no GPK artist should only be thinking of that as their life. I have other things in mind, but other artists I imagine that that will be it for them so they probably hold on to those hoping they'd sell well one day. I sold my previous work for the money I did mostly because it was inferior to what I do now. Unfortunately the way the world works is not by quality. Otherwise I think I'd be making a fortune right now. People like to have the idea that the painting they bought is the only one of it's kind and it was printed on this officially published thing. It's all ego and self importance. It's not because of the quality usually unless it's a Pound from the OS or something. It can go hand in hand for some things. But frankly speaking even if I sell my pieces for $500. There won't be people kicking my door for my Parody Kids Artwork. Again it's from what I've said. They'll bitch to me about the prices even at that amount. I've sold my artwork from galleries and it's the same s**t. Everyone is looking for a better deal so they can make more money later. The artist always gets screwed. I'm not sure why people buy the art anyways. If I'd own a Pound I'd study it I'm sure a completely different way. I'd think I'd imagine how he laid all these strokes and this and that, but frankly I think people just have it as a retirement investment and braggin' rights. I couldn't care less for that kind of collecting. It has to mean something to you. That is why money is irrelevant in the equation if you ask me. $500-2000. If you really want something you can buy it. Everyone else is just pretentious. The same s**t you see at uppity gallery shows just on a smaller scale. Some of these people I think are working class folks in some cases. They save all there money on the hobby. Others have decent jobs and can afford it. Only reason people want to drop my prices is so they can buy more. That's not fair for me. That's only fair for the buyer.
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Post by El-Jefe on Oct 27, 2016 14:45:29 GMT -5
Luis, I agree on what you're saying. If you love the art you wont just buy as an investment but as something you admire and love to look at everyday, price would be no problem! There is one thing that kinda bothers me in the sets that most of the artist produce...not risky enough. I know not everyone agrees with me but I would love to see more sex and drugs. I really think if you make a parody of whats happening in the hood you would be selling like hot cakes...though I'm a bit biased!
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Post by aeneuman on Oct 27, 2016 14:50:22 GMT -5
Luis, I take your points but differ on a few of them. People collect for a whole lot of reasons. It's not just about retirement investments or vanity. Likely, the art collectors will be losing money on these things in the long run, and many have cut into their retirement accounts to buy them. Vanity, don't think so, because if you have the sweetest pieces you're more often resented rather than celebrated, lol. I can assure you one thing, I've lost a lot of money on GPK art...but I don't give a crap. I love it because it's bad ass and it's nostalgic. No other reasons. I have two of your non-GPK pieces (the Matrix v.2 and the 9/11 tribute) because I liked them...no other reason. I like many of your "non official" stuff better than your ANS GPKs in some cases (although you had some seriously epic ANS pieces!). I'd buy more if I could, and I assure you that if they were priced around what Ping, Gross, Im, and a couple of others sell their work for, then I would certainly own more. I know you put a lot of work into them so I can even understand if you charge a couple hundred more like Simko generally does. I think this is the same reason you don't see many of some of the other artists' stuff around quite as much, because they charge much more than most of the others. I can assure you that those artists are no less popular than other GPK artists, it's just economics at work.
To your point about if you like something then you'll buy it no matter what. I wish that were true, but I have mouths to feed, and thus it is nothing like that for me. To be perfectly clear, you have many pieces I'd happily snatch up in an instant. However, when I buy art I have to make a list of the pieces I want and then decide where I'm going to put that money. If there are two pieces that I like but one of those pieces is $500-$1000 cheaper, then you know where I'll go with my cash, especially if I don't have a lot of excess money to burn. For example, even when I wanted one of yours more than another piece, there's economics at play here and I have many responsibilities to consider and I had to go with a piece that was a bit cheaper. Also, I have to decide if I'm going to put out a couple hundred more for an OS piece, or rather, should I buy a newer piece for almost the same price. To that point, yes you're right, nostalgia is monetarily valuable and often displaces some art quality. But, affordability of a high quality newer piece can make up for that. But once your work has been around long enough that nostalgia exists for your art then that will bring with it a premium (which I have no doubt your work will have one day soon, especially if your art circulates more, which is what I'm arguing for here). So, its not always so simple and there are a multitude of factors at play.
I understand your feelings about resell fairness. But there are reasons for that too. When I buy a piece of art, I need to control that investment because I don't know what's around the corner. Maybe my kid gets sick and I need the cash, maybe I get sick, maybe I lose my job, maybe a friend needs money, god only knows what's in store in life. While I love my art collection to my very core, I can assure you I'd sell every last piece to take care of my family, no question, no hesitation, and I don't want to have to pay an artist I feel I paid fairly for in order to do so. That was my money that I earned through my time and effort, and I paid the artist fairly for his/her time and effort. Thus, I own it and they have my money, and that's fair as long as it was freely decided and agreed. That's just how the trade works and art is the artist's profession just as my profession is how I put food on the table. Thus, they are equal and should be treated equal. If I'm a plumber and I fix your toilet, you owe me nothing more if you decided to sell that toilet (bad example, but you get the point).
Anyhow, we could go on and on I'm sure. Ultimately, I just want to see more of your art bouncing around the collectors' corners. That might disturb you, I'm not sure, but it would make collectors very happy! Hopefully that would bring you some degree of pleasure as well.
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Post by DJR on Oct 27, 2016 15:17:55 GMT -5
How about GoFundMe crowdsourced fundraising to secure a high powered intellectual property attorney to file legal action(s) against Topps?
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Post by Cory on Oct 27, 2016 15:46:49 GMT -5
Fugg Topps indeed. I've been saying this for a long ass time. I haven't bought a pack of GPK since FB3. I have supported the artists by buying a final each series up until the 30th anniversary set though. I can't do that anymore because I'm out of space on the walls.
I don't know how it happened, but Topps now is like 100 times worse than Topps during the ANS. I was a lot angrier at Topps back then because I wanted them to fix it. Now I just don't care, because they'll never see another dollar from me. Unless they release that OS16 set many of us have been asking to get for over a decade now.
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Post by fowlraoul on Oct 27, 2016 15:50:17 GMT -5
How about GoFundMe crowdsourced fundraising to secure a high powered intellectual property attorney to file legal action(s) against Topps? I would donate |
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Post by Cory on Oct 27, 2016 16:00:59 GMT -5
You might be thinking I have my old ANS work. Not sure if you are talking about my Parody paintings. I sold a lot of my early ANS paintings for a small amount of money. ($500-700) Some later ones were about the price I sell my Parody Kids today, but not many. I see those ANS paintings every so often going for 10x what I got from it. I think it's not really fair the system we have in place for artists and I'm probably alone here. In some places in Europe every time you sell an artist's work they get a percentage. I think that is totally fair since there is only one of those. We can argue about that all day long, but in California their is a 5% royalty law (which a lot of people try to avoid). It is an incentive so the artist can continue to work on their work so that they make more art that can continue to appreciate in value. So selling my pieces for a meager $1250 or so seems fair to me. Of course you have to walk in my shoes to understand. I've sold some paintings to supposedly hardcore fans and I'd give them a good deal and a month later I see them selling it for 3x the amount to someone else. They were telling how they would never sell it one moment and then they go off and sell it for a lot more. What the f**k is that about? In all honesty I think people only want to buy my "Official" stuff. I don't have any of that any more. I also don't think that that is how I was planning to retire and no GPK artist should only be thinking of that as their life. I have other things in mind, but other artists I imagine that that will be it for them so they probably hold on to those hoping they'd sell well one day. I sold my previous work for the money I did mostly because it was inferior to what I do now. Unfortunately the way the world works is not by quality. Otherwise I think I'd be making a fortune right now. People like to have the idea that the painting they bought is the only one of it's kind and it was printed on this officially published thing. It's all ego and self importance. It's not because of the quality usually unless it's a Pound from the OS or something. It can go hand in hand for some things. But frankly speaking even if I sell my pieces for $500. There won't be people kicking my door for my Parody Kids Artwork. Again it's from what I've said. They'll bitch to me about the prices even at that amount. I've sold my artwork from galleries and it's the same s**t. Everyone is looking for a better deal so they can make more money later. The artist always gets screwed. I'm not sure why people buy the art anyways. If I'd own a Pound I'd study it I'm sure a completely different way. I'd think I'd imagine how he laid all these strokes and this and that, but frankly I think people just have it as a retirement investment and braggin' rights. I couldn't care less for that kind of collecting. It has to mean something to you. That is why money is irrelevant in the equation if you ask me. $500-2000. If you really want something you can buy it. Everyone else is just pretentious. The same s**t you see at uppity gallery shows just on a smaller scale. Some of these people I think are working class folks in some cases. They save all there money on the hobby. Others have decent jobs and can afford it. Only reason people want to drop my prices is so they can buy more. That's not fair for me. That's only fair for the buyer. When we were selling those ANS finals we were getting top dollar at the time.  Those pieces were being sold for the same price as OS6-9 pieces. ANS has appreciated slightly, but not X10, probably more like X1.5. That stuff on ebay has been up there forever and won't sell because it's too high. OS art has appreciated way more but not even that has gotten to X10 yet. I personally buy and display art because I enjoy looking at it. It makes me happy to enjoy the images in their purest most colorful forms. There are some people out there for the money part of it, but I think most of the people here do it for the love of the art. We have all made deals with art to "upgrade" to personal favorites, but we all have different collecting goals. Everyone has a budget and a million things to fit into it. It's impossible to get it all so sacrifices have to be made.  |
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Post by Cory on Oct 27, 2016 16:04:27 GMT -5
Topps strikes again! God forbid Matt sells a few GPK decals to help pay to keep his website going. Hey Topps, you realize these websites are free promotion for your SH**** products right? This one was maximum bulls**t. Matt does nothing but promote their s**t products and they came after him. He posts all of their s**t, even that shittiest of the s**t. This is how they thank him. Unreal. |
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Post by Cory on Oct 27, 2016 16:08:34 GMT -5
I just went to Ping's store website to order a Horribe Kids set. It wasn't there. Did it sell out? I search around a bit and find out Topps made him stop selling it. Really? Then I read Topps sent a bunch of people cease and desist notices today. Even for sketch blanks?!?! Are the fan sets really cutting into their bottom line? F*** I mean Mark's set is his own original art. WTF. It's bad enough Topps has destroyed the GPK brand with F****** HORRIBE ART and SH**** CONCEPTS and LAME AS F*** online "exclusive" overpriced bulls***, now they are coming after the fans? Great work guys! I will NEVER buy another Topps product again. F*** Topps! This one was dirty too, but I understand it. Topps is pretty much keeping GPK alive through online only BS that, let's be honest here, SUCKS BALLS! Mark's stuff was good...a billion times better than what they were trying to sell. Mark's was cheaper too. Topps felt threatened. Maybe they bought all of his stuff so they can sell it to us online instead. Put a real GPK logo on it and sell it for $10 a card. I hope he gets something for all the work he put into the HORRORIBLE KIDS. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 18:03:27 GMT -5
Luis, I agree on what you're saying. If you love the art you wont just buy as an investment but as something you admire and love to look at everyday, price would be no problem! There is one thing that kinda bothers me in the sets that most of the artist produce...not risky enough. I know not everyone agrees with me but I would love to see more sex and drugs. I really think if you make a parody of whats happening in the hood you would be selling like hot cakes...though I'm a bit biased! I know what you're saying and I dig that. I've done a pot-smoker, an animal killer, a pedophile, a pin-up queen, an electric chair dude peeing on himself while on fire. The violent stuff is slightly more amped and f**ked up I like to think on my sets. I've had some fans not want to get some of them because it was too f**ked up. The Jared one people had issues with. I don't really try to cater to anyone, but my own sense of what I can do just on the edge and still having the cartoon quality/humor I like. Otherwise it just looks forced and cheap and bootleg. I like to have a certain about of integrity without losing the overall feel of the kid. He's still a kid to some degree. I can do a whole mess of kids in more compromising positions and I totally like that, but it had to be true to me. I believe subtlety is funny. I think the new sets of GPKs I happen to see are not subtle at all. The political ones are ridiculously unimaginative. Maybe a few here and there, but in general it's just a kid with a costume. The kid is not really the character. It's like Topps artists draw these kids like if the kid is going to a costume store and picking out costumes. I try to paint the kid being that thing. f**k the faces or the CPK look. That should be there, but they are the character...at least that is my attempt. So yeah I'm super into the stuff happening now-a-days and implementing that, but Topps is really forcing that s**t right now. I think after I did my weekly sets they got inspired to try to do the same s**t. I can't keep doing it because it was too much work although I had a lot of ideas for all that, but in the end it can be very dated. I think some of the OS stuff is good and even though it represented some of the fashion of the times it still seemed relevant or it wasn't distracting. So it needs to have a cohesive balance to me, but s**t I'm basically doing the stuff for my own self. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 18:27:03 GMT -5
Luis, I take your points but differ on a few of them. People collect for a whole lot of reasons. It's not just about retirement investments or vanity. Likely, the art collectors will be losing money on these things in the long run, and many have cut into their retirement accounts to buy them. Vanity, don't think so, because if you have the sweetest pieces you're more often resented rather than celebrated, lol. I can assure you one thing, I've lost a lot of money on GPK art...but I don't give a crap. I love it because it's bad ass and it's nostalgic. No other reasons. I have two of your non-GPK pieces (the Matrix v.2 and the 9/11 tribute) because I liked them...no other reason. ............... I can see your perspective and like I said we can argue about it, but it's not like a plumber in any way unless the toilet resells for more in the future. An artist creates something from thin air. An artists needs to keep producing in order for the pieces he's done to continue to see. If I die tomorrow sure there would be a hike in the prices cause I no longer can make any more, but if I live until I'm a hundred and create art for galleries selling them at 300,000 then all the pieces from the past continue to go up. If I die or stop doing art because I can't afford to continue being an artist and I become some obscure artist maybe a few people would want my art, but if hundreds of people would want my art because my art is in demand because I've been doing it and have become famous or something then the art will appreciate over the years. It's not guaranteed, but in general it's the idea that seems to happen. I find that the royalty thing is usually not very helpful for starting artists or artists selling their work for little (like myself) and it seems if you sell your work for millions than the money is larger so if it was up to me I'd make 25% up until a certain amount and lesser as the price goes up. Anyways this is my own take and I'm very driven with the ideas of helping artists be able to continue to create. Not just me, but other struggling artists. I'm not really meant for illustration work. I kind of thought it was the thing I wanted to do, but my brain works from a different place. I can't just produce something for some asshole and deliver it on a timely basis all the time. I did this for 10 years, but when the pressures of paying for so many things and the economy bursts then you as an illustrator (I was living alone at the time) can get depressed and you only see debt and bills and missed calls from the banks, car loans, land owner.... You are thinking of your family and so am I. I'm also a collector...of my work now. I get you. It's a product of this bubble we live in. Created by men before us and sustained by the ones that want to keep it together because it benefits them. If it was up to me I'd give my pieces to people I know would appreciate it if I could live comfortably in a home I didn't have to worry about. I don't give a s**t about money. It's just I have no choice, but to live in this world (unless I blow my brains out). I know this subject is about personal beliefs and unimaginative people might can't imagine that is can change, but if it's this way it's because it was made this way and it can change. Not in my lifetime, or even my grandchildren probably, but eventually it will change once we are all on a more evolved place. We are probably the most self-obsessed culture we have ever lived in as a whole. We need to think about the other person and how our actions affect them. That's why I'm keeping my s**t now unless someone pays me what I think it's worth. This is not a direct message to you. I'm happy you've enjoyed my work and see it for what it is. There is no competition between me and other artists. If I was working for Topps then yeah I'd get steady work on the series and I'd sell them for less. I'm not and I don't have other regular work. I do make money from my store and other things, but luckily my family is doing okay because we both work and take turns who is making money with their art. I'm working on things that will evolve into some other things. I was doing other work before GPKs and I'll be doing other things from now until I die. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 18:32:48 GMT -5
How about GoFundMe crowdsourced fundraising to secure a high powered intellectual property attorney to file legal action(s) against Topps? I was thinking of writing that earlier, but I forgot. One thing I wanted to ask cause I have 3 friends who work for in intellectual property and have attorneys or are attorneys. If anyone has friends who are GPK lovers and want to help any of us artists or collectors with these knucklehead bulls.hit from Topps let us know they are available. My friends worked pro bono for me. In Minneapolis and Miami. If things get back to that direction then this would be a great idea and we should use it. Right now all they are doing to creating a scare. Fear to stop people from producing stuff. It works. I stopped for a while until I saw other possibilities. I'm pretty untouchable now. I did what they asked and they can't do s**t. It's like bullies in school except now it's the nerds going after the cool kids.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 18:44:13 GMT -5
I just went to Ping's store website to order a Horribe Kids set. It wasn't there. Did it sell out? I search around a bit and find out Topps made him stop selling it. Really? Then I read Topps sent a bunch of people cease and desist notices today. Even for sketch blanks?!?! Are the fan sets really cutting into their bottom line? F*** I mean Mark's set is his own original art. WTF. It's bad enough Topps has destroyed the GPK brand with F****** HORRIBE ART and SH**** CONCEPTS and LAME AS F*** online "exclusive" overpriced bulls***, now they are coming after the fans? Great work guys! I will NEVER buy another Topps product again. F*** Topps! This one was dirty too, but I understand it. Topps is pretty much keeping GPK alive through online only BS that, let's be honest here, SUCKS BALLS! Mark's stuff was good...a billion times better than what they were trying to sell. Mark's was cheaper too. Topps felt threatened. Maybe they bought all of his stuff so they can sell it to us online instead. Put a real GPK logo on it and sell it for $10 a card. I hope he gets something for all the work he put into the HORRORIBLE KIDS. I think you are way to optimistic of the HKs. What seems more likely is what they asked me to do is to delete all my sets, all the internet images and basically hide form the world. That's what they want you to do. That's what they did to me. The thing is after you leave Topps you have probably good 2-4 years before people completely forget about you (with their wallets). So Mark is at his peak. He's been there longer than I have and contributed way more. He's also probably done everything they've told him to do (unlike me). So for them to do any s**t to his sets is unreal especially when they are completely safe from what they claim. TOPPS ARE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. "Protecting their property" yeah. They are all dinosaurs over there....they just can't see the tarpits on hedge of the cliff. "Assner"  will sell that s**t off and retire in Boca Raton until he dies. Then hopefully some real younger owners do GPKs justice again. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 18:45:43 GMT -5
Sorry I've been taking up this portion of the thread. I guess I needed to vent a little. I'll take it easy from here on out. Much love.
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Post by tommy4ya on Oct 27, 2016 19:05:31 GMT -5
Sorry I've been taking up this portion of the thread. I guess I needed to vent a little. I'll take it easy from here on out. Much love. We'll take it any way you want to give it. Let it all out man and feel cleansed!!! And hook me up with some of your sweet art while you're at it. |
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F*** Topps
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via mobile
Post by madmadonnawitch on Oct 27, 2016 22:11:16 GMT -5
Hmmm yeah I don't buy any art finals. I guess I get why people do, but it's so incredibly out of my budget right now I can't even think about it lol. For me, if an artist isn't selling their own cards, which most don't because of this legal bs, I don't buy from them. Now I do occasionally buy t shirts, but other than that I'm looking for cards, which for me are more affordable and more fun to collect than art finals.
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Post by rusVan on Oct 27, 2016 23:31:45 GMT -5
Sorry I've been taking up this portion of the thread. I guess I needed to vent a little. I'll take it easy from here on out. Much love. I love you brother! So sorry you had bad experiences working with Topps during ANS and during these years after you left Topps. We are behind you 100%. As much as everybody wishes you still worked on current GPK series, you don't deserve the stress and disrespect Topps gives you. I don't know how some of these other artists like Brent, Mark, and David put up with Topps' bulls**t. Topps does not house the spirit of GPK, the spirit of GPK resides with the artists such as you, ...and Brent, and Mark, and David and all these other guys. Topps still owes the copyright and brand of GPK, and they are currently fighting and bullying to control and hoard the GPK copyright and brand, but they do not own or possess the spirit of GPK, not like they did in the mid 1980's. (I also believe the fans and collectors, such as myself, house a piece of GPK's spirit too!) Luis, you OWN a huge part of the GPK spirit and you have been a wise steward, just keep being YOU because you sir, are GPK greatness and GPK perfection. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 0:25:49 GMT -5
Sorry I've been taking up this portion of the thread. I guess I needed to vent a little. I'll take it easy from here on out. Much love. I love you brother! So sorry you had bad experiences working with Topps during ANS and during these years after you left Topps. We are behind you 100%. As much as everybody wishes you still worked on current GPK series, you don't deserve the stress and disrespect Topps gives you. I don't know how some of these other artists like Brent, Mark, and David put up with Topps' bulls**t. Topps does not house the spirit of GPK, the spirit of GPK resides with the artists such as you, ...and Brent, and Mark, and David and all these other guys. Topps still owes the copyright and brand of GPK, and they are currently fighting and bullying to control and hoard the GPK copyright and brand, but they do not own or possess the spirit of GPK, not like they did in the mid 1980's. (I also believe the fans and collectors, such as myself, house a piece of GPK's spirit too!) Luis, you OWN a huge part of the GPK spirit and you have been a wise steward, just keep being YOU because you sir, are GPK greatness and GPK perfection. Thanks man. It means a lot you saying that. The world is a funny place. A bit upside down and Topps was a good company once upon a time. Very original stuff. Funny stuff. Imaginative stuff. It was the artists who did that and a smart enough person behind the reigns that let them run and leap into new territories. We are the ones who paint the world. CEOs and yes men have absolutely no creative juice in their body. They only have ambition much as slave owners from days gone by had. They want to control people. Artists want to free people's minds. Explore new worlds. Enrich the landscape. Break down the billboards so you can see the sky. These fools are all about harboring little words, pictures, symbols and hiring douche bag troll-like lawyers. They are all like toddlers who don't want to share their toys. Some of them are even a little lispy when they speak with drool coming out of their mouths just like a baby. Except their getting old and won't be here for much longer and one day they'll leave a legacy of s**t a mile high. A monument of failure.  The Kids will live again one day and they'll be pissing on these f.u.c.k's graves.  |
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Post by Agent A on Oct 30, 2016 1:13:15 GMT -5
Luis, you breathed life back into GPK with your ANS work. I love your art and wish I could own some of your originals!
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Art, Cheap Toys, Foreign albums... that's where it is at!! 
(It's also where Topps can't ruin the collecting experience for you). 
will sell that s**t off and retire in Boca Raton until he dies. Then hopefully some real younger owners do GPKs justice again.
The Kids will live again one day and they'll be pissing on these f.u.c.k's graves. 
Really cool box. I wish they had the Nasty Nick box too though 