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Post by UKRob on Mar 13, 2009 14:40:08 GMT -5
Thought i would add a thread for the French language Test Set. I have titled it as FRENCH, as opposed to FRANCE because this set was apparently available in Belgium and Jordan. Printed by Topps Ireland in 1985 41 certificate backed 'a' cards to a complete numerical set 3 variation checklist cards; 5a, 8a and 29a The peel here arrow in the stickers top left corner read "DECOLLER ICI"  FRENCH Test SET Checklist  FRENCH Test Set Peel here arrow  FRENCH Test Set 8a (had to add this as its the only 8a with my name! ;D |
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Post by Thabearrocks on Mar 13, 2009 17:39:09 GMT -5
Haha 1A - Stan Satan. Nothing like getting kids into the devil!!
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Post by rusVan on Mar 13, 2009 21:15:20 GMT -5
Haha 1A - Stan Satan. Nothing like getting kids into the devil!! I assume that is Nasty Nick. Right?  Weird! Maybe satan doesn't mean Satan in France! |
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Post by UKRob on Mar 14, 2009 9:00:47 GMT -5
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Post by gb on Mar 14, 2009 13:38:49 GMT -5
One question, I already red a few times about these Belgium (the country right under the Netherlands, where the southern part speaks French) cards in the French language. And also the '/ Jordan' thing. So far I didn't ask any questions.
But is this the Jordan, that is located just east from Israel? Not that I know another one... But I just don't get it, its the same as, for example, bringing a product in Sweden and Nigeria. (the last time I checked, they didn't speak Swedish in Nigeria)
Or maybe it is different, and I do not know about the thing that everyone else in the world knows. If so, then please tell me how dumb I am...
Has anyone got some of these for sale? They are more rare then the dutch cards, and I never saw any of these on Ebay.
Rob, do you have them all (/almost)? And how did you get them? Living in Belgium would be convienient, but we don't... Just a matter of luck & time I guess?
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Post by UKRob on Mar 14, 2009 16:14:32 GMT -5
Hi GB Its a good question, and one i hadnt considered before... I knew that part of belgium speaks French, but i had just assumed that French must have been the language of Jordan too (yes it is the country in the middle east, or at least i assume so, as i have not heard of another place called jordan either...) I just googled Jordan and language and apparently French is spoken there, but its not their primary language: www.arab.de/arabinfo/jordan.htmYou are right in saying these are harder to find than the Dutch cards. Very hard to find. The only ones i have seen on ebay were a lot of 14 cards from a Dutch Seller (Edwin) which i won a year or 2 ago, a single card in with a bunch of les crados cards from a seller in Belgium, and a single card mislabeled as a german card from a seller in the USAa few months ago. I was lucky enough to stumble across a nice lady in the USA who sold me a near mint variation set a couple of weeks ago, so i now have the 14 cards i won on ebay spare. The condition varies. I should also have something else from this set arriving this coming week..... watch this space! |
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Post by rusVan on Mar 14, 2009 20:33:10 GMT -5
Holy s**t, this is must-have GPK!  |
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Post by gb on Mar 15, 2009 7:53:55 GMT -5
How do you stumble across nice ladys Rob? (don't tell my wife, but tell me)
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Post by UKRob on Mar 15, 2009 13:36:50 GMT -5
Im not quite sure what you are asking GB......  But the lady who i got the French cards from mentioned them when i was enquiring about some other items i was told she had.... so they found me really! ;D Some things are just meant to be! But its probably worth me pointing out, that she has no more of these cards available, nor any of the other Test set cards, because i asked... Just to go off topic (even further) have you visited the Dutch GPK forum GB? I visited yesterday for the first time in ages, and its obviously been pretty quiet there for a while, but it could be a place for you to try and locate the last Dutch cards you are looking for! |
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Post by gb on Mar 15, 2009 14:52:38 GMT -5
Im not quite sure what you are asking GB...... I am just amazed by the luck you had, but like you say, it was just meant to be. I also visited this dutch gpk forum once or twice the last month, but like you say it is dead out there. to go another bit further off topic...; On the dutch Ebay (marktplaats) there is currently a complete set of dutch cards (41) for sale, the guy accepts offers from 150 euro's. Here is the link link.marktplaats.nl/237159024Of these 41 cards I only need 2 (3a & 4a) so I guess it is not smart to buy this complete set, but maybe someone is interested on this board (and if he/she already has 3a and 4a(so by that time spare), please consider selling these two to me!!!!) Shall I make up a thread on the trade depot, although I am not the seller? |
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Post by UKRob on Mar 19, 2009 14:00:15 GMT -5
Here it is, a French language 1985 GPK sealed pack.... or two....  I was expecting the wrapper to have a unique code, specific the cards inside, but it doesnt. It shares the 0-494-0-6 code with the UK 1st series wrappers with barcodes. The obvious difference between this pack and a standard UK pack is the clear strips on the top and bottom. |
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Post by rusVan on Mar 19, 2009 14:23:22 GMT -5
I see Bonie Jonie  That's one thing I love about uk OS1, you can see the card(easily). Damn, that gum looks NASTY  , that back card is ruined no doubt  |
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Post by UKRob on Mar 19, 2009 14:52:02 GMT -5
It is useful being able to see whats in the packs. I was able to cherry pick a card i needed to upgrade in my set! ;D But surprisingly you are wrong about the cards being damaged by the gum. The packs obviously aged somewhere dry, as all the moisture has been sucked out of the gum, its dry and brittle, so the cards just come out with a fine coating of gum powder, no staining at all! |
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Post by gb on Mar 19, 2009 15:45:03 GMT -5
wow!
I am not such a wrapper fetishist, I have got none, threw them all away. It's like keeping the underwear you weared on your wedding...
But to see a sealed pack like this, of a French language test serie, is pretty cool. Especially in Holland there was -and still isn't- not such a culture of collecting trade cards (like gpk)
That anyone back then (by the age of 8 or 10 years old) might have been thinking "hey, lets keep this pack unopened, in 30 years there might be some people that have these cards, but no one will have a unopened sealed pack..." is beyond my imagination, it's a chance of 1 out of 10.000. Ofcourse it could also have been an adult that was a dealer of cards (and other stuff, like candy) in 1985, that kept this item a a left over of the sales period, but that's not such a exciting version of the story...
So thank you very much Rob, for sharing the view of this rare item with us!!!
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Post by rusVan on Mar 20, 2009 21:58:20 GMT -5
wow! I am not such a wrapper fetishist, I have got none, threw them all away. It's like keeping the underwear you weared on your wedding... But to see a sealed pack like this, of a French language test serie, is pretty cool. Especially in Holland there was -and still isn't- not such a culture of collecting trade cards (like gpk) That anyone back then (by the age of 8 or 10 years old) might have been thinking "hey, lets keep this pack unopened, in 30 years there might be some people that have these cards, but no one will have a unopened sealed pack..." is beyond my imagination, it's a chance of 1 out of 10.000. Ofcourse it could also have been an adult that was a dealer of cards (and other stuff, like candy) in 1985, that kept this item a a left over of the sales period, but that's not such a exciting version of the story... So thank you very much Rob, for sharing the view of this rare item with us!!! gb, I love you and I think of you as a friend, but dude, you say some WIERD s**t sometimes!! "I am not such a wrapper fetishist, I have got none, threw them all away. It's like keeping the underwear you weared on your wedding..."  |
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Post by UKRob on Mar 21, 2009 12:57:03 GMT -5
That anyone back then (by the age of 8 or 10 years old) might have been thinking "hey, lets keep this pack unopened, in 30 years there might be some people that have these cards, but no one will have a unopened sealed pack..." is beyond my imagination, If you dont collect the wrappers and packs, you are simply not obsessive enough GB! I bought a full box of GG'91 back in 1990 when they were on sale and still have it with all the packs unopened.... I would have been 11 years old. But you are right in saying most packs would have been kept by adult collectors. And the fact that trading cards are not as popular in the Netherlands is exactly why the Dutch GPK cards are so hard to find in good shape today. Hopefully there is at least one Dutch sealed pack hiding out there waiting for me somewhere!..... |
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Post by rusVan on Mar 21, 2009 13:44:06 GMT -5
That anyone back then (by the age of 8 or 10 years old) might have been thinking "hey, lets keep this pack unopened, in 30 years there might be some people that have these cards, but no one will have a unopened sealed pack..." is beyond my imagination, If you dont collect the wrappers and packs, you are simply not obsessive enough GB! I bought a full box of GG'91 back in 1990 when they were on sale and still have it with all the packs unopened.... I would have been 11 years old. But you are right in saying most packs would have been kept by adult collectors. And the fact that trading cards are not as popular in the Netherlands is exactly why the Dutch GPK cards are so hard to find in good shape today. Hopefully there is at least one Dutch sealed pack hiding out there waiting for me somewhere!..... Yeah gb, you're not obsessive enough! It's time for you to join our UG crazy train motherf**ker  ALL ABOARD!!!!  I know a dude on UG that even collects GPK gum sticks |
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Post by ADAM Bomb on Apr 11, 2010 11:34:24 GMT -5
After speaking with a co-worker from Jordan, and a tour guide in Jordan, French is not spoken in Jordan or was in the 80s/90s. Would anyone who states that GPK in French were sold in Jordan please submit their evidence. I would guess that the 'theory' of Belgian GPK being sold in Jordan might be only based on one foreign contact and never verified. I believe this has inaccurately caused many fan sites to sometimes refer to the Belgian cards as Jordanian. I hope one day that a Jordanian set will be made. Thanks/Shokran Hi GB Its a good question, and one i hadnt considered before... I knew that part of belgium speaks French, but i had just assumed that French must have been the language of Jordan too (yes it is the country in the middle east, or at least i assume so, as i have not heard of another place called jordan either...) I just googled Jordan and language and apparently French is spoken there, but its not their primary language: www.arab.de/arabinfo/jordan.htmYou are right in saying these are harder to find than the Dutch cards. Very hard to find. The only ones i have seen on ebay were a lot of 14 cards from a Dutch Seller (Edwin) which i won a year or 2 ago, a single card in with a bunch of les crados cards from a seller in Belgium, and a single card mislabeled as a german card from a seller in the USAa few months ago. I was lucky enough to stumble across a nice lady in the USA who sold me a near mint variation set a couple of weeks ago, so i now have the 14 cards i won on ebay spare. The condition varies. I should also have something else from this set arriving this coming week..... watch this space! |
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Post by UKRob on Apr 12, 2010 11:49:26 GMT -5
Read the thread Adam; this set was apparently available in Belgium and Jordan Like GB and yourself, I have only heard the rumour that these cards were available in Jordan. So therefore cannot provide any evidence. But that said, even if they were available in Jordan 25 years ago, who could provide evidence? Wayne mentions the Jordan link in his review of the 'Belgian' set. I have heard that these could be found in France, and in Belgium(where the Dutch language cards could be found too). Who knows, who cares, its all word of mouth and speculation. They are an interesting set wherever they were originally sold. Thanks/thanks |
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Post by UKM on Apr 20, 2010 16:01:06 GMT -5
Rob, like i've been said, it's an amazing wrapper and i'm very interested in it, if you have a wrapper more to sell let me know  By the way, someone has found a wrapper test from the australian edition, it's exactly like the wrapper that you have got. I wonder if exists a test set from the italian/spanish/french/english/japan/israelian etc... edition too. |
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Post by ワジ kalas on Jul 25, 2012 1:53:05 GMT -5
Hi i collect the dutch cards and german cards for a while now i got my minty dutch set near complete now ( i only need 8A with /checklist) i have found a few in the last years but all marked ,those damn kids!!!!  The german set was just easy to complete. But the dutch cards where a little harder to find and i had to outbid a lot of collectors here, which was a real pain...i have a lot of extra's and i buy every lot i come across on MP. so prices have skyrocketed because of me.hahaha I'm an dutch GPK addict  but my question; in all my collecting years i have never come across a belgium testset card why are the so damn rare??? Is it because of the amount printed or what? can anybody help me out on the hunt. I am confused am i looking in all the wrong places? |
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Post by UKRob on Aug 6, 2012 12:52:01 GMT -5
my minty dutch set near complete now ( i only need 8A with /checklist) The german set was just easy to complete. i have never come across a belgium testset card why are the so damn rare??? I am confused am i looking in all the wrong places? Hi Kalas2k The Dutch card I had most trouble finding, unmarked, was 5a The German cards dont seem to be as easy to find a they were a few years ago The French language Belgian cards are extremely rare, but they do appear on ebay occasionally. A near full set sold a few months ago. I have seen a couple of other lots on ebay over the years too. I was lucky to find a full set and 9 sealed packs, but i have no spares left now im afraid.... |
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Post by ワジ kalas on Aug 9, 2012 4:40:31 GMT -5
my minty dutch set near complete now ( i only need 8A with /checklist) The german set was just easy to complete. i have never come across a belgium testset card why are the so damn rare??? I am confused am i looking in all the wrong places? Hi Kalas2k The Dutch card I had most trouble finding, unmarked, was 5a The German cards dont seem to be as easy to find a they were a few years ago The French language Belgian cards are extremely rare, but they do appear on ebay occasionally. A near full set sold a few months ago. I have seen a couple of other lots on ebay over the years too. I was lucky to find a full set and 9 sealed packs, but i have no spares left now im afraid.... I will get them soon or later! It just isnt my luck lately An collector from holland bought a lot dutch cards en there where 6 belgium cards in there He put them on MP an bids are now €95 for the cards Thats overpriced i think ,do you have a price indication for the whole set Rob? Thanx for the reply though! |
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Post by UKRob on Sept 28, 2012 3:00:24 GMT -5
Sorry for the late reply, i only just saw your post.
Im a bit out of the loop with GPK, but i would say 400-500 would be a realistic price for a full set.
When i had spare cards from this set, they went for very different prices. from £1 to more than £50 each....
€95 for 6 cards does sound too much, unless they are pack fresh, or some are checklist or 1a/8a certificate backed cards.
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Post by ワジ kalas on Sept 28, 2012 11:49:55 GMT -5
Sorry for the late reply, i only just saw your post. Im a bit out of the loop with GPK, but i would say 400-500 would be a realistic price for a full set. When i had spare cards from this set, they went for very different prices. from £1 to more than £50 each.... €95 for 6 cards does sound too much, unless they are pack fresh, or some are checklist or 1a/8a certificate backed cards. Thats amazing! The where far from pack fresh, the guy who had them for sale put them for auction on ebay the sold for €27,- each i think that is very overpriced for cards in that condition. This set is way out of my league...just for now.  |
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Post by UKRob on Sept 29, 2012 16:02:12 GMT -5
I just found those completed Auctions.... Thats insane.... €27 for cards in that condition!! I would sell my set, which is mint, if i could get €27 for each card....
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Post by ワジ kalas on Sept 30, 2012 0:54:59 GMT -5
 I just found those completed Auctions.... Thats insane.... €27 for cards in that condition!! I would sell my set, which is mint, if i could get €27 for each card.... Yes that was some crazy stuff, looks like everyones hyped up with the testset cards That means that a full french variation set is now worth € 1188  I have been contacted by a belgium collector lately who has 5 extras for sale he wants a minimum of €25 and in n/mint condition. What a coincidence..damn you ebay. I dont know wat to do ,i can never purcase all the cards the are so rare?!
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Post by Keirmon on Sept 30, 2012 7:07:50 GMT -5
Well, as outrageous as it is, I'm only missing 1 and 2 so I'd probably pay if for those so my set would be Complete....
Any takers.....
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Post by UKRob on Sept 30, 2012 8:30:11 GMT -5
Hi Keir, I could understand someone spending that on the last 1 or 2 cards for such a rare set, but i dont think the winner of the auctions needed just these cards. Plus these were in pretty bad shape!
Sorry i cant help with the last ones you need. Which ones are they? Are you going for the variation set?
I wouldnt break my set to sell singles for €27 each, only if i could sell the complete set for that much per card....
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Post by ワジ kalas on Sept 30, 2012 9:33:53 GMT -5
Well, as outrageous as it is, I'm only missing 1 and 2 so I'd probably pay if for those so my set would be Complete.... Any takers..... I will look if this guy has them he sends pictures tomorrow! |
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