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Post by jdk on Oct 8, 2011 19:12:05 GMT -5
hello Gpkstew. I looked at all mine and I have three with the cross mark. I have one in a regular die-cut card, one in a non-die-cut card. and one in a non-die-cut strip of cards containing him. all of the cards in the strip have the single * mark. Good eye and great find.
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Post by jdk on Oct 9, 2011 12:52:25 GMT -5
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Post by Dirty dog on Feb 20, 2013 21:16:56 GMT -5
Picked up a OS5 box and pulled a very clear green "10" out of the first pack. Wish it was centered better but this card reveals something very interesting about the "Green 10". It's actually not a 10 but rather a upside down "OF" It also has a partial ring around it.
The partial ring around it leads me to think this may have been one of the old "inspected by" stickers that fell into the printing press back in the 80's, lol.
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Post by dnh7722 on Feb 20, 2013 22:15:54 GMT -5
Did you open the whole box? Would love to see that pic when you can get it up. What box/Wrapper/ or print run did you get it from? I have a couple I happened upon, but never pulled one from a pack.
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Post by Keirmon on Feb 20, 2013 22:42:34 GMT -5
Dog the pics were up! Now there gone!! Clearly OF upside down, major change to the story! Nice find
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Post by Dirty dog on Feb 20, 2013 23:27:14 GMT -5
Did you open the whole box? Would love to see that pic when you can get it up. What box/Wrapper/ or print run did you get it from? I have a couple I happened upon, but never pulled one from a pack. After that first pack I opened 4 more but haven't cracked the rest of the box yet. Hoping for more examples and would really like to find one with good centering. Most of the cards are off center so it will be tough but pulled a few nice ones so I'm hopeful. I posted pics but am still getting an error. Hope you can see them.
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Post by UKM on Feb 21, 2013 2:46:55 GMT -5
If you can't upload with imageshack Just upload it as a normal attachment
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Post by isic on Feb 21, 2013 13:02:08 GMT -5
I was reading this thread to see if I had a "Green 10" in my collection. Unfortunately I don't, but I do have a Duncun Pumpkin with the "swirly". How rare is Duncan Pumpkin swirly?
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Post by dnh7722 on Feb 21, 2013 14:18:22 GMT -5
Very interesting! Ill check the ones i have w/ a magnifier for the the OF w/ circle. Let us know if you find more. Am curious if they are randomly distributed, or if you may get multiples in a box
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Post by Dirty dog on Feb 21, 2013 22:36:04 GMT -5
14 packs in..... pulled another one
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Post by Keirmon on Feb 21, 2013 23:17:26 GMT -5
Suuuweeet!
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Post by The Doctor of Fuggonomics on Feb 22, 2013 6:52:15 GMT -5
Anyone remember when they just put OF on baseball cards? when they didn't specify outfield position that's from the 86 topps baseball set. It was caused by the roller for the ink and a yellow one possibly causing the green effect on the black background. they probably reused a roller at roller during the print run that had the OF inbedded in it and caught it late.
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Post by ADAM ANT on Feb 22, 2013 7:53:39 GMT -5
I think your right. The pick you posted looks really clear to that. Thanks for posting!
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Post by Keirmon on Feb 22, 2013 8:08:54 GMT -5
Anyone remember when they just put OF on baseball cards? when they didn't specify outfield position that's from the 86 topps baseball set. It was caused by the roller for the ink and a yellow one possibly causing the green effect on the black background. they probably reused a roller at roller during the print run that had the OF inbedded in it and caught it late. That's some good sleuthing!
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Post by Dirty dog on Feb 22, 2013 8:34:11 GMT -5
Wow that's exactly what it is! Turn the card upside down and that's exactly where the baseball set had the positions. I got rid of most of my sports cards but I will look and see if I have an 86 for comparison.
The Repaired Rex outfield error has a nice ring to it lol.
I'm halfway through the box and got a 3rd Rex but no error on that one. Took a magnifier to it and no trace of an OF at all. Hoping to get the rest opened tonight.
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Post by The Doctor of Fuggonomics on Feb 22, 2013 9:33:17 GMT -5
Good luck on finding more Dirty!
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Post by gpkisland on Feb 22, 2013 10:36:58 GMT -5
i really never thought that but it may by the OF symbol from the 86 topps set here is a bo jackson card and you can see if you turn the Rex card upset down and look it would be where the symbol would be good eye DXtc Attachments:
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Post by Dirty dog on Feb 22, 2013 12:27:44 GMT -5
Box is opened. I picked up a 3rd "OF" error. So 5 total Rex's in the box, 2 did not have the error. Close up of Barry Bonds card. The font matches so I think we have a winner. Nice find Dxtc!
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Post by dnh7722 on Feb 22, 2013 12:52:50 GMT -5
Thats Amazing! You got me all fired up to open some packs, even though i know these things are rare. Whats the * count on the back of the 5 you found? Are all the OF's the same and the non errors the other? Just trying to determine if i can open packs in a box till i see the correct star count and quit if it doesnt have the error.
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Post by Dirty dog on Feb 22, 2013 13:15:34 GMT -5
The whole box was all ** including all 5 of the Rex's. If anyone else who has one could look at the back of theirs and see if they are * or ** that would be good to know. I'm also curious if you look closely if you can see the OF or if they just show the "10". My thought is the ones I pulled were part of an early printing and as they went on the OF ink started fading and eventually all you could see is the 10.
All OF's are visually the same and the non errors are the same color black. I know earlier in this thread someone mentioned the non errors were darker but that's not the case with mine.
Unfortunately one of them was a gum card so there is some staining on the back.
I've had a lot of people asking to buy one but i'm not looking to sell them at this time. My plan is to send them to PSA to be slabbed. Not that I think they will grade high but I would like to preserve them. They are all off center so likely looking at 8's at the best. Still very cool though.
On a side note, I opened a few packs that had two of the same card in them (Blue-boy George and Earl Painting) They were one of each variation. Previously I thought that was a sign the box was resealed but this box obviously wasn't.
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Post by UKM on Feb 22, 2013 14:52:18 GMT -5
Great job!Now everything is much more clear...
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Post by Lespaul on Feb 22, 2013 15:18:20 GMT -5
What is weird, on my Rex error card it looks like a 10 with the faint circle which is just like most of the ones out there but on those the F is more detailed. Why would that be?
Well, at least one mystery solved. Now we need an explanation for the Duncan pumpkin swirl error card.
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Post by Keirmon on Feb 22, 2013 15:52:13 GMT -5
This should now be called the Outfield Error card.
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Post by dnh7722 on Feb 22, 2013 17:30:15 GMT -5
Both of mine are **
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Post by Dirty dog on Feb 22, 2013 18:21:51 GMT -5
Interesting. So I opened a different OS5 box a few months ago and just went back and looked and sure enough it was the same box code and pack code but the box was a mix of * and ** and no OF error. So that could explain why this card is tough to find.
Even if you have the right box and packs, you will need to pull a ** box and even then not all Rex's are going to have the error. I wonder if it was on just one card on the sheet or more?
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Post by pat splat on Feb 27, 2013 14:50:54 GMT -5
After reading about these errors, i went back through all my 4th and 5th series cards.
out of about 25-30 duncan pumpkin cards i found 2 with the pink swirl above the knife.
out of about 15 repaired rex's i did not find any Outfield Errors. : (
but it does seem like the duncan pumpkin's i found are pretty rare.
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Post by militaryhorn on Feb 27, 2013 18:55:52 GMT -5
I ordered a box of the OS 5 with the number that Wayne's site listed that would supply this error. Here is the text on that site: This error occurs approximately once per box with the code 1-490-40-03-6. The packs in the box are priced, and they have the wrapper code 0-490-21-05-6.
The box does not have the black line across the front so it might be authentic with all the original packs. I picked it up for $36 on ebay but do I try to get another box to open or open this one without the black line on it? What would you do?
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Post by dnh7722 on Feb 27, 2013 20:21:17 GMT -5
I doubt the black line has anything to do w/ it. And im pretty sure everyone would agree that the 1 per box statement is B.S or there would be alot more out there. It seems likely that it occurred during a portion of a print run, so i would expect either multiples like Dog got, or nothing like most of us got. Read through the thread and you may be able to follow some speculation as to the * and **'s and of course let us know how it turns out!
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Post by militaryhorn on Feb 27, 2013 20:38:18 GMT -5
I only reference the black line since this kind of box means it wasn't a return from the retail store. I don't think that the line has any bearing to whether or not I could pull the card. I was getting at should I try to get another box to open and not tamper with a true original OS 5 box.
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Post by Dirty dog on Feb 27, 2013 21:11:34 GMT -5
Like Dxtc said, they probably reused a roller. I really don't know how cards were printed back then. Dxtc, you know proofs more than any, do you know how the proofs and the rollers went together to print the card?
To me it sounds like the same thing as putting your wet finger on a paper towel roll. The more towels you pull off the roll, the smaller the wet finger mark gets until eventually there is a dry paper towel.
At least that's how the OF vs the 10 makes sense to me. If you look at the tails on the F on my cards, they are not as detailed as the 10 portion which would make sense that they were the first part of the marking to run out?
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